On Mon Feb 24, 2025 at 3:52 AM CET, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2025-02-24T03:36:28+0100, onf wrote: > > On Mon Feb 24, 2025 at 2:36 AM CET, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > > [...] > > > My lodestar on this point is that we can use C and the shell to create > > > files named with trailing spaces, so there's no reason *roff, as a bona > > > fide programming language, shouldn't be capable as well--as long as it's > > > not difficult to implement. > > > > > > Further, because such file names _are_ so easy to create in C and the > > > shell, I think if there were dangerously underhanded threats in the > > > offing, we'd have seen them by now. It's not like people need to > > > smuggle such things onto the file system under the cover of a *roff > > > document. (In GNU troff, since "safer mode" is on by default, a > > > document can't _create_ a file of _any_ name on its own initiative.) > > > > I think the point is that such filenames aren't being used, > > No, that's not "the point". It's _your_ point, iterated ad nauseam, > with justifications like "bringing to [my] attention" points I raised in > Savannah tickets over a year ago.
The only reason I've been repeating it "ad nauseam" is because you repeatedly failed to understand what I was trying to say. Perhaps my ability to express myself isn't the best, I will admit that. But I see no reason for you to be hostile towards me when I try to bring the point across. > Your observation is shallower than it seems, because to date the use of > such file names as request arguments to *roffs has been _impossible_, > whereas it has not with C and the shell. Do I think such names are > likely to become popular? Heck no. But your argument is fallacious > because it depends on whatever the opposite of survivorship bias is. > > "We find that legume crops are disfavored in lunar agriculture." > > Well, yeah, because no one's growing crops of _any_ sort on the Moon. Well, I never claimed it's any sort of "deep" observation. But given how ignorant towards that fact you seemed to be, I felt the need to say it explicitly. And you could have saved that sarcastic remark. I don't remember a single instance where I've done that towards you, but you're repeatedly doing it towards me. > > so breaking compatibility (and making adding comments to these > > requests annoying) > > Your annoyance is a subjective thing. I find inconsistent programming > language grammar _more_ annoying. Under the status quo, one could get > used to slapping down comments without paying any attention to whether > they had spaces (and, historically, tabs) before them; applying that > same practice to `ds` and `as` requests then brings the punishment of > unexpected results. Notice how I put the "annoying" part into parentheses, because it's not important, yet you chose to focus on it as if it was the basis of my entire argument. Well, enough. I've had enough of discussions with you, of your misinterpretations and hostility and sarcasm when I bring up anything that disagrees with your view. I am unsubscribing from this mailing list. ~ onf
