On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 5:05:47 PM UTC+6, tbel...@gmail.com wrote: > It really seems that with all of the questions about the TOS and proprietary > technology, Mozilla Manefesto number 04 comes into play here, and 08 has been > completely ignored. > > Remove it for now, get the answers to the questions, bring it up in > transparent discussion, then put it back if the questions are answered in a > way that won't violate the Manifesto and the community traditions.
As stated earlier by certain mozillians in this thread, the Principles in the Mozilla Manifesto don't oblige Mozilla developers to follow it. They're not strict rules, it's more like "success guide", but not a declaration. And nowhere to be said the opposite indeed. So, despite the community's reaction, if Mozilla aren't following it's Principles too strictly - that's "acceptable". At least I buy it. On the other hand, AFAIR no one mentioned the Mozilla Mission[1], so let me remind you about it: > Our mission is to promote openness, innovation & opportunity on the Web. I believe that (unlike the Principles) the declared Mission DOES oblige Mozilla to not go against it. And this integration goes against the Mozilla Mission. But hey, one can object "but of course you can't promote these three things altogether simultaneously, so Pocket integration promotes innovation and/or opportunity at the cost prejudicing openness". I can retort to that. I honestly tried to discover some killer-feature that Pocket(tm) has (that made Pocket(tm) so "popular" in the first place that Mozilla decided to bring it to the core, but I dare to say that less than every hundredth user had it before the integration, comparing Pocket(tm)'s ~250k users count to Adblock Plus's ~20kk) and Firefox didn't have. And I failed. You can save YouTube videos to watch it later? Why not use "Watch later" button on YouTube or just bookmark it and then sync bookmarks at another device? You can save scaled pictures? What's the point of that? You can't see an image full-sized without following an original link, so there's no difference with just the regular bookmarks, again. You can save a text of any page? No, actually you can't. With Pocket(tm) you can't save a text of pages that require authentication. So, again, you can just use the regular bookmarks, sync it with another device and then go into Reading Mode built in Firefox. Except the opportunity of Mozilla bloating Firefox with other third-party services in the future after this precedent, I fail to see where are "innovation" and/or "opportunity" in this integration. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/ _______________________________________________ governance mailing list governance@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
