A bit aside to the discussion of DRM itself - This is the kind of topic that Reps will be asked about. I'll be helping man our booth at OSCON for example. Of course Reps were invited to the town hall, but I'd like to see something a bit more like training than just information. A guide similar to the CEO FAQ would be great, as well as having people reach out on the Reps-General list to discuss how to talk about this and answer questions (not just about information on the topic) would be really helpful.
Speaking for myself, I am aware of some of these top issues, but I'm not always following them. Part of my role as a Rep is to spread Mozilla's mission. I don't always feel prepared to engage with people on topics like this, though I feel like being able to is part of my job as a Rep and a way I can provide a lot of value to Mozilla. However, I don't have the time to make sure I know all this on my own (in large part due to my involvement in many Mozilla teams already). I need Mozilla to say to me "as a Rep, we want you to be able to engage on this issue, here is what you'll need to do so." On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM, The Wanderer <wande...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 05/15/2014 09:33 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: > > > On 15/05/2014 14:01, Jim wrote: > > > >> On 2014-05-15 11:38, Jonas Sicking wrote: > > >> Mozilla sold out for fear of losing market share. > > > > Sorry, where does "sold out" come from? We receive no financial > > compensation in any way for this decision, so I strenuously object to > > you suggesting we had any motivation except "our users will want > > this content" and "we need our users to be able to use Firefox to > > browse /all/ of the web, in order to be able to fight another day > > against DRM and other anti-openness proposals for the web". > > I think the idea is that you're being compensated for including this not > in money ("financial compensation"), but in market share. > > It looks to me more like caving to blackmail than like accepting a > bribe, and looking at it in that light changes where the fault appears > to lie, but the idea is at least not internally inconsistent. > > DRM-hostile though I am, and much though I've disliked many things > Mozilla has done (and the ways Mozilla has done them) over the last > several years, this really does look to me like the least of several > evils. > > The true blame here does not lie with Mozilla, but with the people > pushing for DRM, and the middlemen who act as their enablers. (Although > some people may now not unreasonably consider Mozilla to fall in that > latter category, I would at least say that they are less so than the > people at the W3C who accepted the idea of building this into HTML.) > > - -- > The Wanderer > > Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. > > A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTdOHvAAoJEASpNY00KDJrBwEP/19CEenyX6k/9bMDoC1hfCKv > u1Ou7tCsF1iZXoiwHCwXxjusK5ihyJkMkF28FMOswAzkcqSb5TJcUjQy/e8jOsMG > hjgR8oCZAkP2m3kovNIwdR1Bg1/RodZYzKvFXr6YaKvLlStAb5xUeAZAAJxL3/mT > +BGVtRxzOo5JhKJfLWyQVmLlzz6NaIqa2fbqsV2BHFyVHcJq501jBXWVipKj8Kfd > 1+5o+VaZghlWSlr5FT9ek+cYvS/akxlwKkzpGSO9ZCr0IYDuUuEiB5FYogVq/eMp > hXkTtP9xmskrho6cK5oWuv5dy+Wf5SkFTSEXVprvXIqvnqJnBPLwg1wW0/9jnxQD > VXh7KVt7KlMYywIFGcLGzy95093ppQYZdfdsn2uw2VhBJM9pKYXr1J3wb094mZJ7 > U1xGNxnRa5zEvWm/Plr8WLLvv3DMr2rZrCidwe2WkITY3OZdQCa3CkkjH/2+nn16 > RuQy4OvehUuEtzVBxjbcOoRningtBJPi0Bk7lLbSJUXsTnGTSmDk3fEGO07frG5k > qlphXI3+DC8hV5laU7+XxNyfuvSomf+OJIJPVWGzhfLygDCabynlwztG0mcsocjs > EonGXoeqDaarGW+2x+8qn+Up84FcnE4d0HBLqFRm3gtshgaipsHlE0xFodcZ+8oR > RIPc+0qpdNmRetDJaIhM > =lDGc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > governance@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list governance@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance