Thanks Ben. I think I'm starting to think with Portals finally. I
reread the whole discussion along with your new post and am now
understanding the whole issue along with my options. What would you
suggest as a good upscale ratio? Right now, the flat map's coordinates
range from -180 west to 180 east and 90 north to -90 south. Maybe
scale it up to -10 west to 10 east and 10 north to -10 south? What
would make most sense?

Sadly I don't presently have a simplified version available at the
moment, but that doesn't mean I can't build one soon. My Maps.js file
really only looks enormous because of all the abandoned commented-out
code. When developing I usually leave old code in for a while, and
delete it when I'm more satisfied with the final product. I'll pull
together a simple(r) version with the custom map, the custom
projection, some example lines, and a built-in alternate map.

On Mar 10, 2:59 am, Ben Appleton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wrapping is fundamental to the Maps API, since afterall the world wraps.
>  But you can hide that wrapping by using a small longitudinal range and
> zooming in, so that the wrapping is hidden way offscreen to the left/right.
>
> But I see the issue you describe: your custom projection does not seem to
> take effect until the map type changes away and back again.  Do you have a
> simpler example page that demonstrates this issue?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Brak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > After spending a week and a half scratching my head with various
> > examples I scrapped it and found a new one to work from.
> > Coincidentally it was written by this board's very own Ben Appleton!
>
> > It properly maps the original 256x256 starting tile to top letf:
> > 90,-180 by bottom right: -90,180 lat/lng coordinates. It also provides
> > a way to alter the scale if you so desire. Thanks so much Mr.
> > Appleton! Code included below.
>
> > So now I've got a new problem, now that all my coordinates are mapped
> > and all is good in the projection world. My map (
>
> >http://library.ucf.edu/Administration/Maps/Default_unpublished.asp?de...
> > ) initializes with one of my custom map types, which has been setup to
> > use the custom projection. However, when the map draws for the first
> > time it's still using the default mercator projection. Switching from
> > and back to one of the custom map types invokes the new Euclidean
> > projection, as well as any subsequent time, the way it's supposed to.
> > (Maps JS file:http://library.ucf.edu/Web/Js/Maps.js)
> > It feels like I need to move some of my code around so the map knows
> > to use the new projection instead of the default, but I'm not sure
> > which code needs to move. I've tried moving the relevant code, but it
> > didn't seem to have any effect. (Relevant code being anything that
> > refers to a LatLng() coordinate on the custom maps.)
>
> > I feel like I'm so close to getting it right. I just need a little
> > guidance in the right direction.
>
> > In a separate issue, I don't really understand how to tell the
> > polygons and markers to not wrap, and just stay on the original map
> > region.
>
> > P.S. The computer status polygons on the floormaps have not been
> > remapped since the new flat projection was finished.
>
> > function EuclideanProjection() {
> >        var EUCLIDEAN_RANGE = 256;
> >        this.pixelOrigin_ = new google.maps.Point(EUCLIDEAN_RANGE / 2,
> > EUCLIDEAN_RANGE / 2);
> >        this.pixelsPerLonDegree_ = EUCLIDEAN_RANGE / 360;
> >        this.pixelsPerLonRadian_ = EUCLIDEAN_RANGE / (2 * Math.PI);
> >        this.scaleLat = 2;      // Height - multiplication scale factor
> >        this.scaleLng = 1;      // Width - multiplication scale factor
> >        this.offsetLat = 0;     // Height - direct offset +/-
> >        this.offsetLng = 0;     // Width - direct offset +/-
> > };
>
> > EuclideanProjection.prototype.fromLatLngToPoint = function(latLng,
> > opt_point) {
> >        var point = opt_point || new google.maps.Point(0, 0);
>
> >        var origin = this.pixelOrigin_;
> >        point.x = (origin.x + (latLng.lng() + this.offsetLng ) *
> > this.scaleLng * this.pixelsPerLonDegree_);
> >        // NOTE(appleton): Truncating to 0.9999 effectively limits latitude
> > to
> >        // 89.189.  This is about a third of a tile past the edge of the
> > world tile.
> >        point.y = (origin.y + (-1 * latLng.lat() + this.offsetLat ) *
> > this.scaleLat * this.pixelsPerLonDegree_);
> >        return point;
> > };
>
> > EuclideanProjection.prototype.fromPointToLatLng = function(point) {
> >        var me = this;
>
> >        var origin = me.pixelOrigin_;
> >        var lng = (((point.x - origin.x) / me.pixelsPerLonDegree_) /
> > this.scaleLng) - this.offsetLng;
> >        var lat = ((-1 *( point.y - origin.y) / me.pixelsPerLonDegree_) /
> > this.scaleLat) - this.offsetLat;
> >        return new google.maps.LatLng(lat , lng, true);
> > };
>
> > // Apply it with this
> > myCustomMapType.prototype.projection = new EuclideanProjection();
>
> > On Feb 23, 11:58 am, Brak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I too am interested in this functionality for my custom maps. I would
> > > love to build a custom projection for my custom maps that is just 1:1,
> > > but I could live with the LatLng system. My only problem with that
> > > system is that, using the mercator projection, the world wraps and I
> > > need to find a way for my polygons, polylines, markers and infoboxes
> > > to not appear in empty space when zoomed out. I'm assuming that a 1:1
> > > could be a solution to this, but all I can do is guess at this point.
>
> > > I tried fiddling with your example code using it as a basis and I
> > > couldn't get it into a state that Google Maps could make any sense of.
> > > Without any documentation on how the projections are supposed to be
> > > formulated I'm sort of at a loss.
>
> > > Alternatively, can you think of any way to simply disable tiling and
> > > subsequently drawing the overlays outside of the "home tile" (tile 0,0
> > > at zoom level 0)?. I also have a "Center Map" Control button that is
> > > supposed to center the map, but it's expecting a wrapping world too
> > > and will center on a non-existent adjacent tile if the map is scooted
> > > too far left or right.
>
> > > evilC: Did you ever get your projection to work? How is your map
> > > system coming along?
>
> > > On Jan 25, 6:08 pm, Ben Appleton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:15 AM, evilC <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I have a reasonable amount of experience with the Google Maps API,
> > but
> > > > > none so far with custom map types and I have been asked to help to
> > > > > make a map of an online game world (http://navemap.com).
>
> > > > > Now from my research, it seems that the smart move would be to
> > > > > properly integrate the game's coordinate system into the map so that
> > > > > things are all accurate. AFAIK, the game world is in effect flat. I
> > am
> > > > > not yet sure on wrapping, there may be e/w wrapping (So it may in
> > > > > effect be a cylinder). I think the origin is in the centre of the
> > map,
> > > > > with negative values for west and north of the origin.
>
> > > > OK.  The Maps API uses latitude/longitude coordinates, which are
> > > > cylindrical.  That is, there is e/w wrapping but no n/s wrapping.  If
> > your
> > > > game coordinates do not wrap e/w, then you can either:
> > > > 1 - Avoid the +/- 180 longitude line by placing your game map from -90
> > to
> > > > +90 longitude.  No-one is likely to pan so far offscreen that they
> > notice
> > > > the world wraps.
> > > > 2 - Or, listen for Map event "center_changed" and if the map pans
> > outside
> > > > -90 to +90 longitude just setCenter() to the nearest point back inside
> > these
> > > > bounds.
>
> > > > So from reading the API documentation, it seems to me that I do not
>
> > > > > want to use a projection? Or if the map insists on one, a plain 1:1
> > > > > conversion from world coordinates to map coordinates?
>
> > > > Yes, a plain 1:1 conversion would do.  So I suggest using
> > > > ImageMapType<
> >http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/v3/reference.html#Imag...>
> > > > to
> > > > download your map tiles, and attach a .projection object like:
>
> > > > var myMapType = new ImageMapType(...);
>
> > > > var myProjection = {};
> > > > myProjection.fromLatLngToPoint = function(latLng) {
> > > >   return new Point(latLng.lng(), latLng.lat());};
>
> > > > myProjection.fromPointToLatLng = function(point) {
> > > >   return new LatLng(point.y, point.x);
>
> > > > };
>
> > > > // Set the projection for custom map type:
> > > > myMapType.projection = new MyProjection;
>
> > > > Now this is a bit oversimplified: you'll have to tweak the projection
> > so
> > > > that eg. markers are placed in the right positions on your tiles,
> > otherwise
> > > > all your overlays will be misaligned.
>
> > > > > Either that, or will it work properly if I just map game world
> > > > > coordinates to lat and lng? I am worried about the effects of the
> > > > > mercator projection on a world which is not spherical.
>
> > > > > Please advise.
>
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