It seems to be that maybe it would be better/easier to just have instance settings for "tasks/cron" vs user-facing instances. I believe most people want user-facing to run fast and don't mind if tasks/cron run slower and save them some $$$. I'd also personally like instance settings by a time/date schedule, since my apps need to be fast mon-fri 8-5. However on the weekend they aren't used much and I don't need idle instances laying around.
On Sep 2, 1:44 am, "Gregory D'alesandre" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Robert, as I said, this is in progress so you don't *need* to submit > an issue, but if lots of people need this, we could try to raise the > priority. > > Greg > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Robert Kluin <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Greg, > > There are a number of reasons I won't use back ends for this. I thought > > I'd submitted an issue for this months ago, but maybe I just talked with you > > guys about it. I'll try to double check and submit one if needed tomorrow. > > > Robert > > > On Sep 2, 2011 2:38 AM, "Gregory D'alesandre" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Hey Robert, I'm certain you already considered this but would it be > > possible to use backends for the processing tasks? This sort of situation > > is why we are looking into putting settings on Versions but it hasn't come > > up that often which is why it isn't a higher priority. I can't find an > > external issue for it, but feel free to create one and star it and to start > > to get more feedback. > > > > Greg > > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Robert Kluin <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Here is one use case for per version settings: I always want my user > > requests served very fast, so I want ow latency / willingness to spin up > > instances for the default version. However, I also do a lot of processing > > in tasks, but it does not need to spin up instances aggressively. Too bad I > > can't upload a dedicated version to run the tasks then tweak the settings. > > > >> I'm in this exact situation with a couple apps right now. > > > >> Robert > > > >> On Sep 2, 2011 2:23 AM, "Gregory D'alesandre" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > Maybe I misunderstood the question, but I'm not sure how instance > > settings for versions impacts this. Are you currently running both an app > > for paid users and an app for unpaid users from the same App? Is there a > > reason you can't run it as 2 Apps? While Versions can serve live traffic > > they were designed to be Versions of a single App and not multiple Apps > > which is why we don't have the same settings on non-default versions. > > > >> > If you go into a bit more detail about what the issue is there might > > be other ways to solve the problem. > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > Greg > > > >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Angke Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> Yet you charge us heavily before all those functions are present. Now > > >> >> I can't treat my own paid/unpaid users separately. Everyone of my > > >> >> users will suffer from a degrade of service because I can't afford so > > >> >> many instances. > > > >> >> Good job Google. > > > >> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Gregory D'alesandre < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > Yes, we are planning on on doing instance settings for versions at > > some > > >> >> > point, although we don't have a date to announce as to when that > > will be. > > >> >> > Thanks for the question! > > > >> >> > Greg > > > >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, pdknsk <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> >> >> I've put mail sending on a separate named version, to have > > separate > > >> >> >> logs and graphs. It works very well, thanks to the task target > > >> >> >> parameter. However, mails are send in huge batches, and spin up > > >> >> >> instances which sometimes stay idle for hours. It might help to > > adjust > > >> >> >> idle instances and latency, but this will affect the default > > version > > >> >> >> as well then. > > > >> >> >> I know this probably isn't using versions as intended, but still. > > > >> >> >> -- > > >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > >> >> >> "Google App Engine" group. > > >> >> >> To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> >> >> [email protected]. > > >> >> >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > >> >> > "Google App Engine" group. > > >> >> > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> >> > [email protected]. > > >> >> > For more options, visit this group at > > >> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > >> >> -- > > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > > >> >> To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > >> > -- > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > > >> > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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