On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 11:31:05PM -0400, Keith C. Ivey wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Very interesting, Keith. Perhaps Stephen, who's debutante
> > post revealed a sound understanding of Teutonic languages,
> > might like to translate it into English for the golf
> > historians. ;)
>
> No, no, we have no need for human translators in this modern
> age. We have Babelfish:
[...]
Ugh. That hurts %)
The background is, that someone up that thread suggested encoding PINs
(secret number for ATM cards and the like) with a secret word and
writing the result on the card itself.
Secret word: Betonmischer (concrete mixer)
PIN: 2478. Take 2nd, 4th, 7th and 8th letter: "eois".
| In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Felix Holderied wrote:
| > Na Na Na, ich habe den Geldbeutel von Jens geklaut und
| > seine 5 Karten gefunden. Es standen folgende Buchstaben drauf:
Well, well, i have stolen Jens's purse, and found 5 cards. They had the
following letters on them:
| > taae, thgg, htaa, hars, grnu
| >
| > Wie heisst der "Betonmischer" wirklich, und wie lauten
| > seine 5 PINs?
What is his "Betonmischer" (secret word), and what are his PINs.
| hmm, also der Betonmischer muesste 10+ buchstaben haben, um 0-9 codieren zu
| koennen, ausserdem darf kein buchstabe in den ersten 10 doppelt vorkommen...
| 9 der buchstaben sind "aeghnrstu".
Hmm, the "Betonmischer" has to have 10+ letters so it can code 0-9.
Furthermore no letter of the first 10 may appear twice...
9 of the letters are "aeghnrstu".
| matrix:~>zcat Crack_4.1+/DictSrc/german.Z |
| tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'|
| perl -ne '
| chop;
| if(split(/ */)>9){
| $ok=0;
| line: for($a=0;$a<10;$a++){
| for($b=$a+1;$b<10;$b++){
| if(@_[$a] eq @_[$b]){
| $ok=0;last line; # buchstabe doppelt
| }
| } if(@_[$a] =~ /[aeghnrstu]/){$ok++};
| } if ($ok>8){print "$_:$ok.\n";} #Das wort hat die gesuchten 9 buchstaben
| }
| '
| erhaltungsmassnahme:9.
| haftungsrecht:9.
| naturgeschichte:9.
| naturgeschmack:9.
| strahlungen:9.
| waehrungstransaktionsberichte:9.
| waehrungstrends:9.
| hinausgetragen:9.
The ":9." part was only for debugging %)
My golf'ish solution from yesterday is:
perl -e '$x=pop;map{split//;$#_=$#_>9?9:0;%q=map{lc$_,1}@_;print
if(@q=keys%q)>9&&$x=~/^[@q]+$/}<>' aeghnrstu
| Davon sind natuerlich nur die woerter interessant die sich in den ersten
| 10 buchstaben unterscheiden (naturgeschichte und naturgeschmack sind
| gleichbedeutend :) - das macht 6 woerter die in frage kommen.
The only interesting words are the ones which differ in the first 10
characters (naturgeschichte and naturgeschmack are tantamount) - thats 6
relevant words
| Hmm, bei 3 versuchen pro karte (geheimzahl am automaten) sollte es
| kein problem darstellen, da kann man ja mit 5 karten 10 "woerter"
| durchprobieren, bevor man die erste verliert...
Hmm, with 3 tries per card (PIN at the ATM) - there should be no
problem, because you can try 10 "words" with 5 cards before you loose
the first card...
| unter diesem gesichtspunkt ist diese methode also nicht sicher genug :)
With this point of view, this method is not secure enough :)
| --
| Fuer die Raupe ist es das Ende der Welt,
| Fuer den Rest der Welt ist es ein Schmetterling
Babelfish made this:
> for the crawler-type vehicle it is the end of the world,
> for the remainder of the world is it a butterfly
This might make more sense with a s/crawler-type vehicle/caterpillar/
;-)
CU,
Sec
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