Sorry that was snotty. Bring back the punch cards to really prove who’s a great developer!
> On Aug 26, 2023, at 4:29 PM, Robert Engels <reng...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > Or you click on the top stack line in an IDE and then arose down. > > It’s like some people want to go back to horse and buggy “because it was > better for the environment”. Balancing competing priorities is a great skill > to have. > >>> On Aug 26, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Justin Israel <justinisr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:47 AM Mike Schinkel <mikeschin...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> If I understand what you are asking then JetBrains GoLand does. >>> >>> I do not know if there is a way to use the keyboard, but it does provides >>> links you can click when it displays the call stack on panic. >> >> If your keymap configuration derives from one of the system configs >> (Windows, Macos, ...) then "Next Frame" and "Previous Frame" have default >> mapped hotkeys. So you can do the same workflow Jason mentioned, starting a >> debugger execution, which panics, and then navigating the stack all via >> keyboard (if that really is your thing). >> >>> >>> -Mike >>> >>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 8:33:08 AM UTC-4 Jason E. Aten wrote: >>>> Is there any IDE that allows you to jump through a stack trace like emacs >>>> does? >>>> >>>> e.g. If I have a panic on a run, with two keystrokes I can jump to the >>>> origin >>>> of the panic, and then their caller, and then the parent caller, and then >>>> up to >>>> the grandparent on the call stack... instantly. I've never found this >>>> essential >>>> functionality elsewhere, but maybe I'm just not familiar... A friend of >>>> mine tried >>>> to add it to Visual Studio and gave up... it was just too hard for VS. But >>>> maybe JetBrains has it?? >>>> >>>> I'd love to try an IDE other than emacs, but this is a fundament thing, >>>> that I cannot give up. >>>> >>>>> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 6:21:35 PM UTC+1 Mike Schinkel wrote: >>>>> Yes, as Luke Crook mentioned I think those requirements are more ALM >>>>> functionality than IDE functionality. >>>>> >>>>> Generally, ALM addresses concerns broader than individual concerns >>>>> whereas IDEs are more focused on individual productivity. >>>>> >>>>> Just my opinion, but I would expect you'd be better off finding an ALM >>>>> solution and then an IDE that integrates with that ALM, or vice versa, >>>>> i.e. find an IDE that integrates with an ALM and then use that ALM. >>>>> >>>>> #fwiw >>>>> >>>>> -Mike >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 7:21:46 AM UTC-4 alex-coder wrote: >>>>>> Hi All ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Considering that IBM's punch cards were bearing at least twice, I would >>>>>> vote for them. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Of cource I do agree with them who wrote that to feel comfortable "under >>>>>> fingers" is great ! >>>>>> >>>>>> So, the tasks to code - they are different. >>>>>> Sometimes it is possible to keep all the details regards to the task in >>>>>> a head or several. >>>>>> Sometimes it is nesessary to write say a hard copy of them(details) on a >>>>>> paper with a different size. >>>>>> >>>>>> But in case the task from the area of the "poorly formalized". You spend >>>>>> paper quickly. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> The Luke Crook points to: >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_lifecycle_management >>>>>> >>>>>> I will simplify the task somewhat and take from ALM for example even >>>>>> less than SDLC, namely: >>>>>> requirements, design, implementation, testing, deployment. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Requirements must be described somewhere. >>>>>> 2. Design artifacts should reflect requirements. >>>>>> 3. Design decisions refer to objects and messages that >>>>>> implemented in the form of classes and operations. >>>>>> 4. Each operation must pass at least one test. >>>>>> All tests must be passed successfully. >>>>>> 5. The application is assembled and installed there and >>>>>> the tests are successfully passed again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Question: is there any IDE or plugin which one support that kind of >>>>>> dependencies in a graphical mode ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> вторник, 22 августа 2023 г. в 18:22:52 UTC+3, Mike Schinkel: >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 5:27:34 AM UTC-4 alex-coder wrote: >>>>>>> What I'm looking for is the ability to manage dependencies not only in >>>>>>> code, >>>>>>> but entirely in a project from requirements to deployment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I assume you mean a lot more than just Go package dependencies, as `go >>>>>>> mod` handles those nicely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you elaborate on the specific dependencies you are trying to >>>>>>> manage? 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