On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 12:10 AM Eltjon Metko <eme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The commercial dispute is between Reddit and API Consumers. it has nothing > to do with mods or the users. > Then why are the mods and users protesting? > No-mater how certain you may be who is in the right and who is in the > wrong, the most certain thing here is that there is great part of the > commuinty who are being held hostage > The mods of /r/golang making their decision based on a vote. This hyperbole seems uncalled for. > and used as tool for commercial disupute that has nothing to do with them > or this subredit. To be clear I am not accusing the mods of Golang subredit > for being in a powertrip (because initally it did not come from them) but > other users who try to force their narrow worldview onto others. If this > was an ethics issue, depnding on how clear it is there might be ground for > protests, commercial disputes should never be ground for holding even a > fraction of the users hostage. > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 10:43:36 PM UTC+2 Axel Wagner wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 6:53 PM Eltjon Metko <eme...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Protests like this (temporary) never make sense, they only create >>> inconvinience for users while reddit will just have to ride it out. >> >> >> Note that the common hypothesis is that there is a reason reddit is so >> urgently pushing through the API charges, why they are urgently trying to >> shut off the protest and why they are *particularly* urgent about shutting >> down the protest of setting subreddits to NSFW: That they consider doing an >> IPO in the near future. In that case, they can't really "ride it out". They >> are likely pretty heavily interested in looking good to investors *right >> now*. >> >> >>> This is a commercial dispute nothing more and everyone that acts like a >>> crusader in this case is simply in a power trip. >>> >> >> I find this a strange stance, given that most of the people actually >> participating in the protest are unpaid volunteers. So I don't see how that >> can be considered a "commercial dispute", to be honest. >> >> >>> >>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 5:01:29 PM UTC+2 drc...@google.com wrote: >>> >>>> Have you considered moving to another platform, either Lemmy or Kbin? >>>> (He says, not having completed his own move of the benchmarking bot to >>>> botsin.space). >>>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:51:10 PM UTC-4 Robert Engels wrote: >>>> >>>>> I’m fairly certain Reddit will license those tools for moderators use. >>>>> That is not what they are trying to prevent. >>>>> >>>>> > On Jun 24, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Wojciech S. Czarnecki <oh...@fairbe.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Dnia 2023-06-23, o godz. 23:50:32 >>>>> > Amnon <amn...@gmail.com> napisał(a): >>>>> > >>>>> >> Sorry, but I have been away and missed the context. >>>>> > >>>>> >> What is the protest about? >>>>> > >>>>> > Reddit's decision to sink all good free tools that allow people >>>>> (mods) to work several hours per day >>>>> > keeping their communities free of propaganda and scams. >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> What has redit changed? >>>>> > >>>>> > APIs that were free to access by third parties will be priced as >>>>> gold. >>>>> > >>>>> >> Thanks >>>>> > yw. >>>>> > >>>>> > P.S. >>>>> > It is worth mentioning that Reddit *has* a good reason to close APIs >>>>> that are abused by A"I" businesses. >>>>> > Just there is no will to make such changes robust, IMO, as it would >>>>> cost. It seems to me that current Reddit's >>>>> > brass has no faintest idea how many $millions monthly mod's work is >>>>> worth. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Wojciech S. 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