NOTHING in life is free. Basic science and economics. 

> On Jul 17, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Space A. <reexist...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Others already replied about Oracle, and I don't want to go OT here, just a 
> small remark: you a wrong saying that VS Code is free. You are not paying 
> bills directly, that's correct. But it is not quite true that you are not 
> paying at all. It's just a different business model, first of all letting 
> Microsoft have close connection to wide dev audience and push and advertise 
> for own technologies, such as azure. 
> And if next time you start imagine that something made by corp is free, just 
> think for a while who at the end of the day pays for the party. And where 
> these money taken from.
> 
> 
> ср, 17 июл. 2019 г. в 09:07, Michael Jones <michael.jo...@gmail.com>:
>> I'm a reader here, so @all includes me. In regards to Oracle, I was 
>> delighted when they released VirtualBox under GPL and remain delighted that 
>> they pay Oracle employees to enhance it and share their work. When they 
>> write (https://www.virtualbox.org)...
>> 
>> "VirtualBox is being actively developed with frequent releases and has an 
>> ever growing list of features, supported guest operating systems and 
>> platforms it runs on. VirtualBox is a community effort backed by a dedicated 
>> company: everyone is encouraged to contribute while Oracle ensures the 
>> product always meets professional quality criteria."
>> 
>> ...I find that a logical explanation and a mutually beneficial outcome. The 
>> name 'Oracle' on that page does not discomfort me, nor does it upset me that 
>> the remarkable and free VS-Code admits to Microsoft's parentage--I thank 
>> them for that. I feel the same way about Google staffing Go with my computer 
>> science heroes (Ken Thompson et al!), building a wonderful language, 
>> application-level operating system, rigorous spec, two compilers, and open 
>> sourcing every bit of it. I am grateful, respectful, and absolutely stunned 
>> at your vitriol in response to gifts that none of us earned. It feels base 
>> and unseemly to me. Maybe you could reconsider your posture. 
>> 
>> Michael Jones
>> Ever grateful for manna from heaven
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:05 PM Anca Emanuel <anca.eman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> @all, what do you think of Oracle ?
>>> That is not an company, that is an monster.
>>> 
>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:40:19 PM UTC+3, Michal Strba wrote:
>>>> As you all know, the new, redesigned Go website has a Google logo in the 
>>>> bottom right corner.
>>>> Someone opened an issue about this, worrying that with the logo, nobody 
>>>> will see Go as a community project: 
>>>> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/33021
>>>> 
>>>> The issue was promptly closed and locked by a Go team member, which I must 
>>>> admit, is kind of an unfair move.
>>>> If you read this thread on r/programming, it seems like the worries are 
>>>> quite justified: 
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ccidly/golang_issue_ticket_remove_the_google_logo/
>>>> 
>>>> I personally am fine with the logo.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you think? For example, Rust has no Mozilla logo on its page 
>>>> despite being largely funded by it.
>>> 
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