Guys, why not keep the discussion to the point. Oracle is quite irrelevant
here. The issue is the perception of Go among programmers.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:46 Wojciech S. Czarnecki <o...@fairbe.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:06:41 -0700
> Michael Jones <michael.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In regards to Oracle, I was delighted when they released   under GPL
> > and remain delighted that they pay Oracle employees to enhance it
> > and share their work.
>
> Excuse me?!
>
> 1. VirtualBox was opensourced under GPL by its real creators, the Innotek
> GmbH.
>
> 2. Even before that, VirtualBox was available under so called PUEL license
> first
> to developers then also to SMEs -- i.e. to everyone that made install by
> him or herself.
>
> 3. VirtualBox was acquired by the Sun Corporation in 2008 and Sun had put
> quite a  money to make VBox creation/administration GUI tools, including
> working metal->virtual converters.
>
> 4. Then Oracle bought Sun.
>
> Many small users expected that PUEL licensing -- as a part of Innotek
> acquisition
> deal -- will stay. It stood for the short period Oracle lawyers needed to
> null PUEL
> obligations Oracle inherited from Sun. Since then (v5.1 iirc) Virtualbox
> can
> be used for free only by pupils and hobbyists. (You're out of PUEL right at
> the first $1 earned on IT-related work, whether Virtualbox was involved or
> not).
>
>
> > The name 'Oracle' on that page does not discomfort me
>
> Me it disgusts a lot.
>
>
> P.S. This is really OT for the go-nuts list, but the Oracle's "alternative
> facts"
> that are spread in many media outlets need correction. I do not blame
> Michael Jones for falling a prey to that - he's within a legion.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
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> Wojciech S. Czarnecki
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