On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 08:49:52 -0600
Burak Serdar <bser...@ieee.org> wrote:

> Comparison to Java (or any other language) is not off-topic,
> especially when generics are concerned. I don't agree with some of the
> things discussed here, but they're still valid and relevant, in my
> opinion.

In my opinion there are no factual comparisons in this and other OP pieces.
To the contrary, in my very recent memory are interesting GO2 threads, both
on nuts and on dev lists, derailed by the Java "grassroots marketing" as 
presented.

Please search your inbox (or webgroup) and take a look for yourself.

Taken in separate, it looks good and thoughtful and of goodwill - 
just sparkled here and there with "an unconditional Java love".
Amass it and suddenly there is a pattern emerging of "Java's better",
"Java's inventors knew better", "Java got it right" dominant pitch.

On many threads time was wasted, by many, fighting cup-of-java shaped
straw men. Yet more people wasted time reading these derails and trying to
make sense of it. OK, sometimes there is an neophyte attitude people
take as learning new exciting things. But they are not supposed to make
ex cathedra claims about pears over oranges superiority. At least unless
they work in sales department.

Yep, I might have waited with this booing for the next meritful thread of
someone else to be interrupted with Java advocacy, but then I would've
been derailing possibly useful thread myself. Here is better. At least
for mail list subscribers.

TC,

-- 
Wojciech S. Czarnecki
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