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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Frederick Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا _/ AUDIO https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha _/ http://goa1556.in +91-9822122436 784 Saligao Goa _/ Goanet :: 30 years of discussions. [email protected] _/ http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ On Wed, 17 Jun, 2026, 12:56 am 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net, < [email protected]> wrote: > Court records and police records are one of the most vital documentation > which expose the oppressions of the voiceless. These oppressions can echo > through the oral tradition but can equally get distorted. For instance, > discussions around the Goa inquisition are often distorted by the oral > tradition because not enough archival research has been done. Researcher > Alan Machado has exposed the limitations and lies of the oral tradition in > this respect. > > In my latest work Guts, Glory and Empire, I reveal the depth of the Goan > engagement with the 19th century Arab world. This engagement has been > forgotten by collective memory. > > All best, > > Selma Carvalho > Author of* Guts, Glory & Empire: The Epic Story of Goans in Zanzibar, > 1865-1910 <https://www.joaoroqueliteraryjournal.com/about> *published by > Speaking Tiger. > > > On Monday, 15 June 2026 at 23:19:38 BST, Frederick Noronha < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Dr Vivek, > > What you say is true: archives reflect power. The archives were often > created by states, religious establishments, colonial administrations, > courts, state power and elites. They therefore preserve some voices far > better than others. Historians recognise this and have developed methods of > reading sources "against the grain" to acknowledge that archives are not > neutral. (In Goa we see a trend where the archives created by rulers in the > sixteenth are read in a way that suit the ideology of our current rulers > too.) > > But, the biases of archives does not negate their value. Without archival > records, many of the very structures of power, exploitation, exclusion and > resistance would be far more difficult to reconstruct. Just by nature of it > being elite-produced does not make it useless; it needs critical > interpretation. > > Oral history is crucial and give space to omitted voices. But oral sources > also have limitations: memory is selective and many experiences disappear > with the passing of generations. It may not be an either-or option.Oral and > archival sources are not opposites but complements. One could build the > other. > > Incidentally, we are also seeing initiatives like the People's Archive of > Rural India, set up by noted journalist P.Sainath who also happens to be > the grandson of labour leader turned Vice President and President of India > VV Giri (1970s). > > Besides, archives are not composed solely of the voices of rulers and > elites. Court records (sadly getting destroyed after some time), petitions, > depositions, wills, land disputes, police complaints, religious records, > labour records and other documents tell the stories of non-elites too. > > Why not just be conscious of the strengths and silences of both? > How effeciently the archives are being maintained, how many local scholars > are using the same, and how open is access to it (specially to scholars > from abroad, as Dr Christina has noted) are among the key issues which keep > coming up. I feel we should not give any excuse to devalue this > centuries-old record or to make it even more inaccessible and forgotten. > > FN > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ Frederick Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا > _/ AUDIO https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha > _/ http://goa1556.in +91-9822122436 784 Saligao Goa > _/ Goanet :: 30 years of discussions. [email protected] > _/ http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > On Sun, 14 Jun, 2026, 9:22 am Vivek Pinto, <[email protected]> wrote: > > With all respect to Dr. Da Silva and others who have labored in various > archives, > > Archives, no matter where they are located, metropolis or periphery, are > not only "elite-centric" but protect, solidify, and justify the power of > those who continue (read: us) to exploit (by our writings) those at the > bottom of the social, economic and political pyramid, particularly women > and children. > > We give them undue importance as they are on paper and we use it to > aggrandize ourselves, academic positions, and whatever else. Religious > orders are no exception to this truth and so let us please stop attributing > too much value to the years we have labored there. We will not get any > discount when future historians read our works, academic or non-fiction > "against the grain." > > What is "against the grain"? It is not only crucially interrogating the > written record to search for hidden and suppressed truth, but actively > searching for oral sources. > > The balance can never be restored. It is a myth. > > Best regards, > > Vivek Pinto > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2026 at 5:34 PM William Robert Da Silva < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I agree fully with Dr Celsa Pinto. However, there is another side to the > archives she speaks about. Archives are of the ruling elites and the > powerful writing elites. Everyday archive of people's lives in caste > living, occupation, conflictual relations with the higher and purer castes, > religious leaders, family, employment and their 'archive' of art and > culture - these are equally, if not more, important, and these give a > balance to the 'archive' generally so-called. > I have paid greater attention to that part of life and, in language > research, its yield has been colossal. > Thank you. > William Robert > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 3:10 PM Cristiana Bastos < > [email protected]> wrote: > > ____agree 100% - but getting a research visa is extremely difficult - for > inidia and many other places. I co supervised a Brazilian doctoral > student, funded for a year of research in lisbon and goa, and after many > many attempts to get a visa to India in order to do research in goa’s > archives she had to give up. She would not risk using a tourist visa for > research and went back from lisbon to brazil… may be there will be another > chance for her, but the energy one has in the doctoral years is unique, i > think. Perhaps there is a way of making things easier for doctoral > students? > Thanks > > > > ___________agre_________________ > De: [email protected] <[email protected]> > em nome de Frederick Noronha <[email protected]> > Enviado: 12 de junho de 2026 07:42 > Para: [email protected] > Assunto: [GRN] Experts urge researchers to utilise Goa's rich archival > heritage (O Heraldo) > > [archives.jpg] > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ Frederick Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا > _/ AUDIO https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha > _/ http://goa1556.in +91-9822122436 784 Saligao Goa > _/ Goanet :: 30 years of discussions. 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