I have an interest in doing it. There is also a ghumott song on the same
theme. With vhoddlem Goy as the centre of power of the prince: Durut rai.

On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 3:02 PM William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]>
wrote:

> When you write about velha Goa and Goa velha, you refer to Portuguese
> language. It could not have been there before Estado da India when they
> arrived there. The names before the Portuguese needs to be reconstructed
> with Konkanni, Kannada, Marathi as part of the language group that operated
> there. Goapuri, Gomant, Gomantak etc. needs to be located in literature,
> written texts, because we cannot recover spoken words about these issues.
> There is so much more to be critical about in order to bring about a
> discourse and an understanding.
> Thank you,
> William Robert Da Silva
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 4:12 PM Joao Paulo Cota <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear William, do you have any plans on publishing / recording these songs?
>> They are priceless.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <
>> [email protected]> on behalf of William Robert Da Silva <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Sent:* 12 May 2026 09:46
>> *To:* [email protected] <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Goa's Past... Beyond Politics and Propaganda (Jason
>> Pinto SDB)
>>
>> My point is Goy, Goa are capital cities of rulers, not the land and state
>> or kingdom.
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2026 at 2:27 AM William Robert Da Silva <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There is a lot of wishful reading and re-search on Goa,  Konkann and
>> Konkanni. Goa, which is a regional state now within the Indian Union
>> (states and union territories),  was always a city, capital city of rulers.
>> The Kadamba were 'ruling' *Goa * is wrong. Portuguese did not rule '*Goa*.'
>> They called it Estado da India.  What did Adil Shah rule? Not *Goa*.
>> Goa, Govapuri etc. were capital cities of their rulers. Go*y* was always
>> a city, capital city. There were three: vhoddlem, adlem and novem
>> (Pannaji). Good investigation alone helps in determining the past. People's
>> oral songs speak of vhoddlem Go*y.* I have collected at least fifteen
>> such songs from elders in Goa state today and in Canara. There is more.
>> W R da Silva
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:30 AM John de Figueiredo <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> That is all well-known. My point is that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was not the
>> capital of Yusuf Adil Shah as Fr. Jason Pinto states. The capital of Yusuf
>> Adil Shah was Velha Goa.
>> John M. de Figueiredo
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 6, 2026, at 6:37 PM, MD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Goa Kadamba Chakravarti Jayakesi I (ruled A.D.1050-1080) was the younger
>> son of Shastha Deva II. He was one of the prominent kings of the Goa
>> Kadambas. He made Govapuri (modern Goa Velha), his capital in A.D.1052. It
>> is situated on the north bank of River Zuari in Tiswadi taluka of Goa.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:52 PM John de Figueiredo <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> This author states that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was the capital of Yusuf
>> Adil Shah. This is not correct. The capital of Yusuf Adil Shah was Velha
>> Goa, not Goa Velha (Govapuri).
>> John M. de Figueiredo
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2026, at 3:52 AM, Frederick Noronha <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> *Goa’s Past Beyond Politics and Propaganda*
>> *..... exploring Goa's complex history from different aspects*
>> There is an increasing tendency to paint history with a single brush,
>> especially as elections approach. This is much evident in the recent
>> incidents in Goa and elsewhere. It raises questions about the happenings in
>> Medieval Goa, during the Portuguese rule (1510–1961). But can such a vast
>> subject be explained simplistically? Certainly not. Such arguments often
>> assume that pan-India once followed one religion, and other religions came
>> only with invaders or colonisers. Indian history has always been more
>> diverse and interconnected than what modern political slogans suggest. Read
>> full article here:
>>
>>
>> https://jasonpintosdb.substack.com/p/goas-past-beyond-politics-and-propaganda
>> <https://jasonpintosdb.substack.com/p/goas-past-beyond-politics-and-propaganda?>
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