My point is Goy, Goa are capital cities of rulers, not the land and state or kingdom.
On Sat, May 9, 2026 at 2:27 AM William Robert Da Silva <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a lot of wishful reading and re-search on Goa, Konkann and > Konkanni. Goa, which is a regional state now within the Indian Union > (states and union territories), was always a city, capital city of rulers. > The Kadamba were 'ruling' *Goa * is wrong. Portuguese did not rule '*Goa*.' > They called it Estado da India. What did Adil Shah rule? Not *Goa*. Goa, > Govapuri etc. were capital cities of their rulers. Go*y* was always a > city, capital city. There were three: vhoddlem, adlem and novem (Pannaji). > Good investigation alone helps in determining the past. People's oral songs > speak of vhoddlem Go*y.* I have collected at least fifteen such songs > from elders in Goa state today and in Canara. There is more. > W R da Silva > > > On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:30 AM John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> That is all well-known. My point is that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was not the >> capital of Yusuf Adil Shah as Fr. Jason Pinto states. The capital of Yusuf >> Adil Shah was Velha Goa. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 6, 2026, at 6:37 PM, MD <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Goa Kadamba Chakravarti Jayakesi I (ruled A.D.1050-1080) was the younger >> son of Shastha Deva II. He was one of the prominent kings of the Goa >> Kadambas. He made Govapuri (modern Goa Velha), his capital in A.D.1052. It >> is situated on the north bank of River Zuari in Tiswadi taluka of Goa. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:52 PM John de Figueiredo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This author states that Goa Velha (Govapuri) was the capital of Yusuf >>> Adil Shah. This is not correct. The capital of Yusuf Adil Shah was Velha >>> Goa, not Goa Velha (Govapuri). >>> John M. de Figueiredo >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2026, at 3:52 AM, Frederick Noronha < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> *Goa’s Past Beyond Politics and Propaganda* >>> *..... exploring Goa's complex history from different aspects* >>> There is an increasing tendency to paint history with a single brush, >>> especially as elections approach. This is much evident in the recent >>> incidents in Goa and elsewhere. It raises questions about the happenings in >>> Medieval Goa, during the Portuguese rule (1510–1961). But can such a vast >>> subject be explained simplistically? Certainly not. Such arguments often >>> assume that pan-India once followed one religion, and other religions came >>> only with invaders or colonisers. Indian history has always been more >>> diverse and interconnected than what modern political slogans suggest. 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