On 9/30/19 4:38 PM, Jeff Allen via Gnupg-users wrote: > On 9/30/19 4:58 AM, Roland Siemons wrote: >> Dear GNUPG developers, >> >> We have GOT TO make things simpler. > <snip> >> 3/ Please do appreciate that the persons who we are convincing and >> instructing are not particularly interested in privacy. They need simple >> approaches. > > ProtonMail or Tutanota. Both ensure far more privacy and security than > Gmail. Both offer free accounts and smartphone apps. If you need to > communicate privately with someone, have them get an account. >
I'm sorry to disappoint you here: Neither ProtonMail nor Tutanota speak proper OpenPGP (by default) with outside services. Tutanota doesn't speak OpenPGP at all and completely bound to their own way of doing "email"(?)[1]. Protonmail on the other hand is able to speak OpenPGP, they just don't do it. Not even when you answer to a OpenPGP encrypted email, which will result in the answer getting send to you in plaintext. And since a reply contains a copy of the original email at the bottom you also get your own, previously encrypted mail as answer without encryption. I had this experience recently when sending emails with their support. So it's not just a user error, but their UI simply doesn't think about sending emails properly encrypted to the outside world. Sadly. And no, making a mail account at each of those providers is no solution. We have email to explicitly not run into this problem. [1]: https://tutanota.com/faq/#pgp -- Signed Sheogorath OpenPGP: https://shivering-isles.com/openpgp/0xFCB98C2A3EC6F601.txt
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