On 17/08/14 08:57, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 16.08.2014, Kristy Chambers wrote: > >> Sorry for that crap subject. I just want to leave this. > [....] > > The use of PGP/GPG depends entirely on the respective needs and > and context. For me, it has been working perfectly in many years, and > thus, what's described in this article is a good example for theory > which doesn't affect practice. At least in my case. > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnupg-users mailing list > Gnupg-users@gnupg.org > http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users >
I've been using gnupg for many many years. I have 199 users in my key ring and 99.99 per cent are "untrusted." A fact that I for one do not mind. You don't trust my key is from me - right? Trust is relative - you have all been here for many many years - but I will not sign keys from you as "trusted." Leaving aside the issue of how popular encryption of mail is - we are faced with the fact that 98 per cent of computer users are completely ignorant about software and hardware. They just go into PC World and buy what they like. There is No Microsoft pre-loaded security features built-in and so end users have no idea about encrypting their emails - and no easy way to instantly share keys between users. There is no automatic key generation at the point of switching the computer on for the very first time and then sharing your key with millions of other people. Same with so-called smart phones and tablets - there is no automatic "simple" key creation and automatic posting to a secure key server. We make an effort - but I have very very few friends that I have had to install gnupg on their computers - every one I know knows nothing about computers. While we are concerned with our "rights" to private communication - concerned with NSA GCHQ 99.99 per cent of the world's population while having a general or non-existent idea of "security" have no idea of what they should do. We fiddle while Rome burns. After 20 odd years while there has been advances in cryptography and GUIs there has been an almost zero growth in take up. No wonder Yahoo and Google (who can not be trusted) are providing solutions to end users who are completely ignorant. Can you imagine the horror of Microsoft entering the "market?" That thought scares me to death. But we have to face the fact that Microsoft has a hold on hard drive manufacturers - in that they are all sold with a version of "Windows" on them. What is required is that at first boot up of a computer an Iphone or an Itablet whatever a programme needs to run that will install and create a set of keys automatically. Your public key will automatically be sent to key servers. If there are any "bugs" security holes - then updates should be automatic. Time to die? Well after 20 years I think it is all very academic - professors sit in class rooms the world over - not much common sense comes out of their mouths. The real issues are: (a) do we want to implement our own security on our own devices as a "geek" or (b) have some automated pre-installed software that will create all that's necessary at first boot or (c) rely on some large corporation to handle the encryption and decryption for us Will global encryption and de-cryption of all emails and there attachments be fully automatic? The implications for security and intelligence services are a real head ache but who cares!! Some countries do not allow encryption by law and those that do will change their laws to have access to All private keys or face long term jail sentences. All governments are against the people. GNUpg would have a great future if the developers had greater vision. We are in a very very tiny minority of people. So small we are insignificant. The use of gpg will die out because we are ALL getting a bit long in the tooth. Service providers will make their own solutions available simply as an added "end-user benefit" but without any legal binding on their own security. We know that the NSA and GCHQ would be horrified by the thought of every one in the entire world encrypting their emails. They have a vested interest of keeping it under their control. The fact is 99.99 per cent of the world's population does not know gnupg exists. Or GPG4WIN. Perhaps when we are all in our 90's we will say "Oh gpg was a good idea, pity it did not catch on." David -- “See the sanity of the man! No gods, no angels, no demons, no body. Nothing of the kind.Stern, sane,every brain-cell perfect and complete even at the moment of death. No delusion.” https://linuxcounter.net/user/512854.html - http://gbenet.com
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