On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, David Shaw wrote:

OS X is an interesting case. The standard filesystem, as you note, is HFS+ with journaling. Usually this is a danger sign for shredding as the shred process doesn't know all the information it needs to do a proper shredding job. However, Apple has shredding built-in to OSX, and since both the shredder and the filesystem come from the same people, it's at least possible that they did the necessary work to have this shred properly (i.e. in a journal-sensitive way). Did they actually do this? I have no idea, and would be curious to hear from someone who does have a reference on this one way or the other. Apple tends to be fairly stingy about this level of detail.
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test it!

fill a file with a few hundred copies of a random hash. as a control, delete the file the normal way and try to find it on the disk (i'd expect you can find it). repeat with a different hash, shred the file, and try again to find it on the disk.


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