I suggest you reread my first email where I wrote that we possibly should 
change the preselected items so that one can get a histogram faster. 

ajg

Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I think you make my point very well!-)  So apparently you have to dig
>even deeper into the menu system than I realized to actually get a
>histogram.  The reason I did not look for a tab to select "Histogram"
>is that I had already selected "Histogram" at an earlier stage.  
>
>Instead of finding fault with my description of the problem I suggest
>you look at some of the other software I mentioned and count how many
>clicks and dialog boxes you have to wade through to get a histogram.    
>It is MUCH easier -- even in software like R that is supposed to be
>very unfriendly.
>
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>> On 15-04-14 08:38 AM, Bob wrote:
>> > OK, I see part of the problem is over the meaning of "histogram".
>> > Everywhere except in spreadseets it means a graphical display. So I
>> > started by clicking on the graphical display icon.  If I go your route
>> > I do not get a graphical display, I get a frequency table (with really
>> > weird bin boundaries).
>> One of the things I suggested is that in the dialog on the "Graphs & 
>> Options" tab you ask for the kind of chart you want. Apparently you 
>> asked for "No chart" so you got no chart.
>> 
>> Andreas
>> 
>> >   Here is a nice implementation of histograms in
>> > the free Stats Homework software:
>> >
>> > http://facultyweb.berry.edu/vbissonnette/statshw/doc/histogram.html
>> >
>> > If it seems like the dialog box is missing it is because at the first
>> > step you get a draft histogram automatically and the dialog consists
>> > of buttons to edit the default. So it takes one menu choice (which is
>> > not at the end of a long trail) to get A histogram.  And to edit the
>> > draft you can start by just asking for more or fewer bins.  You do not
>> > need to compute the max. or min. of your data nor compute the bins
>> > yourself.
>> >
>> > The reason I fuss about this is that one should never do statistical
>> > analysis on any data without first making an appropriate display so
>> > you can see any problems that might exist.  Excel makes it really hard
>> > to do that.  gnumeric makes it a little easier, and it makes boxplots,
>> > but it could be a LOT easier for beginners.
>> >
>> > Forwarded message:
>> >>  From [email protected] Mon Apr 13 09:52:59 2015
>> >> To: [email protected], [email protected]
>> >>
>> >> Le dimanche 12 avril 2015 =C3=A0 19:30 -0400, Bob a =C3=A9crit :
>> >>>> In gnumeric it should be easier;-) (I actually can't figure out how to
>> >>>> do it in gnumeric but I think you have to chose a lot of things
>> >>>> Minitab and R will chose automatically [while still allowing you to
>> >>>> override anything] What I would like is to highlight the (unbinned)
>> >>>> data and select "histogram" from the graph menu and immediately see a
>> >>>> histogram.).
>> >> We are not that far away from this:
>> >>
>> >> 1) highlight the unbinned data
>> >> 2) select Statistics->DescriptiveStatistics->FrequencyTables->Histogram
>> >> 3) On the 'cut-off' tab select "calculated cutoffs" and enter the 
>> >> number=20
>> >> of bins desired.
>> >> 4) On the "Graphs and Options" tabs select the type of graph
>> >> 5) Click on okay.
>> >>
>> >> I guess we could change some of the preselected items so that (3) and=20
>> >> (4) are not necessary.
>> >>
>> >> Andreas
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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