I think you make my point very well!-) So apparently you have to dig even deeper into the menu system than I realized to actually get a histogram. The reason I did not look for a tab to select "Histogram" is that I had already selected "Histogram" at an earlier stage.
Instead of finding fault with my description of the problem I suggest you look at some of the other software I mentioned and count how many clicks and dialog boxes you have to wade through to get a histogram. It is MUCH easier -- even in software like R that is supposed to be very unfriendly. Forwarded message: > From [email protected] Tue Apr 14 12:15:23 2015 > X-Original-To: [email protected] > X-Csoft-Rule: spam<=5.0 > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-csoft39 (2011-06-06) on > lilly2.csoft.net > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI > autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-csoft39 > X-Original-To: [email protected] > Delivered-To: [email protected] > X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gnome.org > X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1429028087-0538de0f6f5cbcf0001-FiEwLn > X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: [email protected] > X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 64.34.111.205 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:16:06 -0600 > From: Andreas J Guelzow <[email protected]> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; > rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: How to save advanced-filter settings (fwd) > References: <[email protected]> > X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: How to save advanced-filter settings (fwd) > In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> > X-Barracuda-Connect: cwh16.canadianwebhosting.com[64.34.111.205] > X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1429028087 > X-Barracuda-URL: https://64.34.111.239:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi > X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at idig.net > X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 > X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.12 > X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.12 using global scores of > TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 > QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=3.5 tests=CN_BODY_332 > X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.17913 > Rule breakdown below > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > 0.12 CN_BODY_332 BODY: CN_BODY_332 > X-BeenThere: [email protected] > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 > Precedence: list > List-Id: GNOME spreadsheet <gnumeric-list.gnome.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/gnumeric-list>, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnumeric-list/> > List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> > List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list>, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" > Errors-To: [email protected] > Sender: "gnumeric-list" <[email protected]> > > > On 15-04-14 08:38 AM, Bob wrote: > > OK, I see part of the problem is over the meaning of "histogram". > > Everywhere except in spreadseets it means a graphical display. So I > > started by clicking on the graphical display icon. If I go your route > > I do not get a graphical display, I get a frequency table (with really > > weird bin boundaries). > One of the things I suggested is that in the dialog on the "Graphs & > Options" tab you ask for the kind of chart you want. Apparently you > asked for "No chart" so you got no chart. > > Andreas > > > Here is a nice implementation of histograms in > > the free Stats Homework software: > > > > http://facultyweb.berry.edu/vbissonnette/statshw/doc/histogram.html > > > > If it seems like the dialog box is missing it is because at the first > > step you get a draft histogram automatically and the dialog consists > > of buttons to edit the default. So it takes one menu choice (which is > > not at the end of a long trail) to get A histogram. And to edit the > > draft you can start by just asking for more or fewer bins. You do not > > need to compute the max. or min. of your data nor compute the bins > > yourself. > > > > The reason I fuss about this is that one should never do statistical > > analysis on any data without first making an appropriate display so > > you can see any problems that might exist. Excel makes it really hard > > to do that. gnumeric makes it a little easier, and it makes boxplots, > > but it could be a LOT easier for beginners. > > > > Forwarded message: > >> From [email protected] Mon Apr 13 09:52:59 2015 > >> To: [email protected], [email protected] > >> > >> Le dimanche 12 avril 2015 =C3=A0 19:30 -0400, Bob a =C3=A9crit : > >>>> In gnumeric it should be easier;-) (I actually can't figure out how to > >>>> do it in gnumeric but I think you have to chose a lot of things > >>>> Minitab and R will chose automatically [while still allowing you to > >>>> override anything] What I would like is to highlight the (unbinned) > >>>> data and select "histogram" from the graph menu and immediately see a > >>>> histogram.). > >> We are not that far away from this: > >> > >> 1) highlight the unbinned data > >> 2) select Statistics->DescriptiveStatistics->FrequencyTables->Histogram > >> 3) On the 'cut-off' tab select "calculated cutoffs" and enter the number=20 > >> of bins desired. > >> 4) On the "Graphs and Options" tabs select the type of graph > >> 5) Click on okay. > >> > >> I guess we could change some of the preselected items so that (3) and=20 > >> (4) are not necessary. > >> > >> Andreas > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -------> First-time AP Stats. teacher? 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