David,

I understand perfectly what you are saying. My point was I read the post to be 
a confusion in terms. I understood the OP to mean ‘opening balance’ to mean the 
opening balance transaction in the account, *not* the ’starting balance’ of the 
reconciliation. In fact, Gnucash uses the term ’Starting Balance’ in the 
reconciliation dialogs, not ‘Opening Balance’.

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 7:49 AM, David T. <sunfis...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I could be wrong, but I read “opening balance” to mean the balance when the 
>> account was created in GnuCash, not the “starting balance” for the 
>> reconciliation. Certainly, when you first create an account, you have to 
>> tell GnuCash how much is already in the account if it pre-existed.
> 
> Here’s the thing: when you create an account, it will have zero reconciled. 
> So, if you haven’t reconciled your account before, the opening balance will 
> always be zero. The screen shot clearly shows a non zero opening balance, 
> meaning that some reconciliation has already taken place.



> 
>> 
>> It could be that the user is erroneously entering this as the reconciliation 
>> starting balance without it first being reconciled.
> 
> AH, but you *can’t* enter an opening balance; it’s automatically calculated 
> from all previously-reconciled splits.


Indeed, I thought you could specify this and now I realize your point. If the 
window is showing a Starting Balance, then *something* has already been 
reconciled and those transactions should be visible when applying a Filter as 
suggested.

> 
>> 
>> I’d think the solution is either:
>> 
>> 1. Reconcile only the opening balance transaction, then proceed with a 
>> regular reconciliation, using that amount as the ’starting balance'
>> 2. Use a 'starting balance' of zero and know you have to check off that 
>> initial transaction as if it appeared on the bank statement. (because 
>> technically it does in the ‘beginning balance’ figure on the statement.
> 
> Those are the suggestions in the Guide, I believe.
> 
>> 
>> On the point of being ’slightly off’, I understood the OP to mean that 
>> previously they do not regularly reconcile, but rather ‘cursorily view’ 
>> their account and do not usually worry about exactness until the end of the 
>> year. (presumably when an actual reconciliation is done)
> 
> My point still stands; if even one transaction is “slightly off,” then you 
> won’t finish the reconciliation. Moreover, roll any such inconsistencies in 
> to problems with overall balances, and you quickly have a knot that is 
> impossible to untangle. Better to eliminate one source of inconsistencies and 
> see where the remaining problems lie. I suspect there’s more, since I can’t 
> get any of the supplied numbers to balance out.

I also don’t think the OP meant they reconcile or intend to reconcile ‘roughly’ 
or ‘fuzzy’— again, a difference in how I read the post. Of course, you can’t 
reconcile and be ‘off’ without a balancing transaction, by definition. I wasn’t 
meaning to suggest otherwise.

Regards,
Adrien
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