Uh ... Putting my "business analyst" hat on I see nothing there which says WHAT data needs to be transmitted to them digitally.

This discussion has seemed to be making the assumption that gnucash would need to be sending it's "books" to them digitally which is NOT the same thing as saying that some reports, filings, etc. must be sent to them digitally << perhaps they get exported and then something else sends them >>

For example here I might do an electronic FILING using data produced by gnucash to supply the numbers that get filled in during the electronic filing process. But gnucash is not doing the electronic filing.

I think, before involving coding developers we need that information so that "business" level developers can determine what the REQUIREMENTS are.

Michael D Novack

PS: In my working days, sometimes wore one of those hats and sometimes the other.



On 8/17/2017 8:47 AM, Mike Evans wrote:
I just received this from HMRC.

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 10:46:57 +0000
From: <sdst...@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk>
To: <sdst...@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk>
Subject: VAT Call for Software developers


Dear All,

I writing to tell you about a conference call that has been arranged for 
11:00am on 05 September 2017.

You may be aware that the Government has proposed that businesses with a 
turnover above the VAT threshold (currently £85,000) will be mandated to keep 
digital records and submit data to HMRC through its secure API platform 
service. The changes will take place from April 2019 for VAT.

Current plans are to make the APIs available for private beta test in October 
2017 and we want to advise interested software vendors about our thinking as 
well as provide them with an early opportunity to raise any issues or 
questions. It will of course also help us identify if your company is 
considering developing or enhancing a VAT product to support the proposals.
We can then arrange to work with you going forward, providing the usual 
technical assistance and other support needed to prepare for the pilot, from 
April 18 and  in readiness for the changes being mandated from April 2019.

   *   Only businesses with a turnover above the VAT threshold will have to 
keep digital records and only for VAT purposes. They will only need to do so 
from 2019.
   *   Other businesses will be able to file digitally on a voluntary basis for 
both VAT and Income Tax and NICs

Our current development schedule is as follows

   1.  October 2017 - private beta (API testing) with interested software 
vendors
   2.  April 2018 - public beta (pilot) data submission for VAT purposes (MVP 
to include unincorporated businesses); we will be inviting business volunteers 
throughout the year, anticipating that early adopters will already be using 
software and therefore likely to already be your customers. These will include 
both Tax Agents, their clients as well as unrepresented VAT businesses.
   3.  From April 2019 - data submission for VAT purposes (that is all 
VAT-registered businesses whether the business is unincorporated or not); 
Mandated for VAT registered businesses with a turnover above the VAT threshold, 
but all VAT registered businesses can use the service.

Please let me know if you intend to join the call so I can make the necessary 
arrangements. Please send your reply to this email no later than 17:00 on  24th 
August 2017.


Kind Regards

Dennis Dawkins |Senior Delivery Operations Lead| HMRC CDIO Digital - Software 
Developers Collaboration -  Software Developers Support Team (SDST) | 2nd 
Floor, Accounts Office Shipley, Victoria Street, Shipley BD98 8AA

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