Glad it worked out for you...
A good friend of mine, a long time Ubuntu user, watched me install
Fedora 19 and said "hmm, I might need to give that a try again".
I really miss the minimize button on the window, but at least you can
use a hot key (if you can remember it).
I have a "Linux Keyboard", so I have a "Linux" key, you probably have a
"Windows" key. If you press the Windows key, you can just start typing,
which will minimize the mouse movement for finding the programs you want
to run.
If things are running in a hidden mode (Pidgin does this to me all the
time), press Windows + M and you can see those out of site applications
so that you can open them or kill them :-)
I agree that overall things have been improving.
On 09/09/2013 02:42 PM, Vadim wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I just wanted to share my excitement about Fedora 19 and Gnome-Shell
3.8. This post is a bit contrary to what I reported some time ago in
another thread concerning "Gnome-Shell degrading every release", and
that is part of the reason I wanted to share my experience on the list.
So, I switched from Ubuntu 13.04 with Gnome-Shell 3.6 to Fedora 19
with Gnome-Shell 3.8 and have great experience so far. Given that I am
on the same computer that I had GS 3.6 installed on, my comparison is
quite "fair". I do not know however whether it is due to switching to
pure Gnome experience with Fedora or Gnome 3.8 would work the same way
under Ubuntu.
1) First, the overall experience with GS is somehow "smoother" than it
used to be. There are still lags time to time for unknown reason, such
that GS would get stuck for several seconds without responding to
anything, but I guess it is, probably, due to JS doing its job or some
other background processes.
The biggest problem here is that whenever the screen is locked, all
extensions are disabled, and reenabled after that. This causes a
significant delay in showing the system after screen lock (I believe
this is the reason, because I did not see that when I had less
extensions installed). I do not see any real reason for disabling
extensions on screen lock. Moreover, I can easily think of extensions
that I would personally want to have enabled when screen is locked. It
should be up to extension how it hides itself when it is not needed.
Disabling/enabling of extensions has dramatic effect on performance.
Why do not you just "freeze" them if you really want to?
2) Overview:
a) I do not experience any lags with opening Overview the first time
anymore.
b) Overview and other animations perform much better: it used to be
when I press Win-key that it would lag for a bit and show the final
window placement in a second or so without actually animating windows
going there, but now I see quite smooth animation.
c) I like the new Overview layout. Also, the window placement in
Overview has improved a lot.
d) There is still auto-showing of Overview when the last window is
closed (which is annoying when you, for example, just restart the only
application) but there is an extension to prevent that, and I saw that
this is not the case in GS 3.9 anymore (correct me if I am mistaken).
One thing to mention here: please move the Apps button in Overview to
the top. I will explain why. For me one of the reasons I did not like
Unity was that when you needed to find an app with the mouse you would
have to make quite a distance with your mouse cursor to find what are
you looking for, just imagine this: top-left corner to open it, then a
tiny icon on bottom-center of the screen to select category (why would
not you put all those icons on top?), then right part of the screen to
select category, then top-left to click the app etc. That was not the
case with GS.
3) Message tray with "pressure" is amazing compared to what it used to
be. I do not need any extension preventing showing Message Tray anymore.
The two problems were solved in one move: I would not accidentally
open Message Tray when I do not want to, but I can instantly without
waiting open it when I need to. Now there is only one problem left:
sometimes I need to interact with icons in Message Tray several times
in a row, such as opening their menus and choosing several commands.
That would be awesome if it would stay open until I actually click
outside of it (not when, for example, I right-click icon and open its
menu). So, I still need Top Icons extension.
4) Files (Nautilus). I reported in that other thread big problems with
Nautilus being somehow laggy. The problems were so big that I had to
switch to another file manager (I used Dolphin with all its
Gnome-incompatibility). This is not the case for me anymore. It
performs quite well: there are no lags when I focus Nautilus window
etc. It is more than usable now.
nautilus-terminal is also back for me! Just a tip: Nautilus has this
weird behaviour that when you press slash "/" it would focus the path
line and enter the slash there. This "feature" prevents from entering
the slash in nautilus-terminal! But you can easily fix this.
There are some other little annoyances that I had to overcome, but
everything has been solved somehow. Examples:
- When you choose background, there is no option to browse for a file.
Change it directly in dconf-editor (set org.gnome.desktop.background
picture-uri) or put your background in ~/Pictures.
- There is no easy way to change Metacity theme anymore. Change it in
dconf-editor (set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences theme) and make
sure your Metacity theme is in /usr/share/themes not in ~/.themes (the
latter does not work for some reason for many themes: I saw a bug
report about that some time ago, so I knew what to do when my theme in
~/.themes would not be applied -- just move it /usr/share/themes and
check permissions).
- New weather app as well as the Weather extension on
extensions.gnome.org offers big airport weather only (Norwegian
forecast or something) and moreover it is often way off: so, I just
git pull
https://github.com/canek-pelaez/gnome-shell-extension-weather.git,
which is old nice version of the extension that now has searching
support (so, you do not need to go to Yahoo whether to find your
city's ID).
Overall, many of the problems I reported for GS 3.6 were solved for me
in GS 3.8.
So, to sum up, all I wanted to say now is: "No! Gnome-Shell does not
degrade with every release." Old problems are being solved, some new
are introduced. But overall for me Gnome 3.8 has matured a lot
compared to previous versions.
Vadim
Developer of YAWL extension.
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