On 9 December 2011 18:29, David Collins <davidcollins4...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think: >>Essentially if you don't like it then it's apparently your fault. > is a fair thing to say. It's different and it's new. You CAN move to > something else if you don't like it.
This, to put it very politely, is manure. It has been a huge struggle to find an alternative that's sustainable - in other words something that works and that's getting updates. I am insulted that anyone should suggest that it was a mere nothing but that's par for the smug course here. > But change cannot be held up because > some people are unwilling to alter their workflow. I don't speak for GNOME > in any official way. Just a commenter. And I'm not trying to be > disrespectful. GNOME 3 is still maturing and I love it. If I make a change you don't like and make it extremely difficult for you to escape it and I call it "progress" you'll be upset. I could do any old crap and describe it as being new. Regards, Tim > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Tim Murphy <tnmur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Quite a few people have mentioned the same thing on this mailing list, >> including myself. You'll get told: >> 1) to keep trying till you change your mind >> 2) that if you don't change your mind it's because you're old >> 3) that other people's grandmothers, who know no better anyhow, are >> able to use it >> 4) if you don't like something you can always make a hotkey to do it >> >> Essentially if you don't like it then it's apparently your fault. >> >> I have stopped trying to use reason because this is about people on >> some mission and they aren't listening. >> >> What you can do is to support the people who are listening. >> >> http://www.linuxmint.com >> >> This is a respin of Ubuntu with the MATE DE which is basically GNOME2 >> forked. It also has a modified GNOME3 which is almost usable. >> >> I have just switched and I'm happy with it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tim >> >> On 9 December 2011 17:58, Wendell Nichols <wc...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> > I've been using Linux in one form or another for almost 20 years to >> > write >> > software. My desktop is busy and I keep connections to about 10 other >> > desktops open for testing and development on other acrhitectures and >> > languages. I like linux because it is flexable... or was. I keep all >> > these >> > desktops configured roughly the same so I don't have huge mental shifts >> > to >> > make when going from machine to machine. That is: one panel, on the >> > bottom >> > containing the menu, workspaces, notification area etc. The rest of the >> > screen is dedicated to doing MY work. IMHO desktops should be invisible >> > until you need them not crowding out your apps and laying multiple title >> > bars on things. >> > My laptop is Ubuntu 10, but I need to upgrade. I've tested several new >> > distributions: >> > -ubuntu 11 unity; absolute disaster seems designed for cell phones or >> > somehing >> > -ubuntu 11, fedora or opensuse with gnome 3. basic functionality is >> > there >> > but there is no way to consolidate the top and bottom panel into one at >> > the >> > bottom. That is an absolute requirement. >> > >> > Currently if nothing changes I will migrate to a KDE desktop, but I find >> > it >> > slow and some of my favourite apps are not available or don't work well >> > in >> > KDE. The really sick thing is that I find myself using windoze 7 more >> > and >> > more these days and not hating it like I would if linux desktops were up >> > to >> > the job. >> > >> > sigh. >> > Sorry to make my first post so negative but I feel that the most open >> > and >> > inclusive computing environment I've ever used has taken a rather sad >> > turn >> > for the worse. >> > >> > Wendell Nichols >> > Software Architect >> > _______________________________________________ >> > gnome-shell-list mailing list >> > gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list >> >> >> >> -- >> You could help some brave and decent people to have access to >> uncensored news by making a donation at: >> >> http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/friends/ >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-shell-list mailing list >> gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > -- You could help some brave and decent people to have access to uncensored news by making a donation at: http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/friends/ _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
