Dear Abraham,
Sorry for making it hard. Since I am so new to this I guess I am not explaining 
it clearly for you to help me.

First of all I dont want to ignore any hydrogens but as pdb2gmx was complaining 
about my system and suggested me to add -ignh I did so.

My problem is how to update .hdb with heme hydrogen details.

So, here to follow your suggestion removing the hydrogen atoms I wish to ignore 
I actually need to ignore the hydorgens in protein.

Thanks
Sundar

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


              On 20/04/2012 9:02 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:    
          
 
          
          
 Dear Abraham,
              
              How would it work if I remove the hydrogen atoms that I           
   wish to ignore from my input co-ordinate file? The pdb2gmx              
tries to add the missing hydorgen atoms for which the .hdb              doesn't 
have information.
            
        
    
    You've never actually told us what hydrogens you want to ignore, so    
you're making it hard to help you.
    
    Mark
    
    
          
              
              In my case here, I can consider heme as a ligand instead          
    of having it as protein since it doesn't need to be the              part 
of the protein.
              
              Thanks for your information.
              Sundar
                      
          
 
          
          
-----Original            Message-----
            From: Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
            To: Discussion list for GROMACS users            
<gmx-users@gromacs.org>
            Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 6:42 pm
            Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF
            
            
              On 20/04/2012 7:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:              
                    
 Dear Abraham,
                      
                      I am ignoring hydrogens for the protein residues          
            since I am not sure if the Gromacs has an option                    
  to ignore hydrogen only for pretein residues but                      not for 
the heme complexed with it.
                    
                  
              
              No, there is no ability to ignore them selectively - but          
    if you want to ignore any of them, you have to address the              
heme hydrogen database issue, or go and remove the              hydrogen atoms 
that you wish to ignore from your input              coordinate file.
              
              
                    
 
                      One of my colleagues suggested to treat the Heme          
            as an ligand not as a part of the protein to solve                  
    this issue. How would that really affect the                      accuracy 
of the simulation?
                    
                  
              
              It's not a question of accuracy, but rather that if you           
   have bonded interactions between heme and protein, they              have to 
be part of the same [moleculetype], which is what              pdb2gmx is 
struggling to generate.
              
              Mark
              
              
                    
 
                      Thanks
                      Sundar
                    
                    
 
                    
                    
 
                    
                    
-----Original                      Message-----
                      From: Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
                      To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
<gmx-users@gromacs.org>
                      Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm
                      Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27         
             FF
                      
                      
                        On 20/04/2012 4:38 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:           
             
                              
 
                              
                              
 Dear Abraham,
                                  
                                  Thanks for your email. I have already         
                         read the manual to solve the problem                   
               but I wasn't successful.
                                
                            
                        
                        That's good to say (particularly the first time         
               you post a request for help, else you'll just                    
    get told to go and read), but is unlikely to get                        
much help because you haven't identified a                        specific 
problem. You'd like the ability to                        build hydrogen atoms 
on a heme residue. pdb2gmx                        has to have a specific recipe 
for doing that.                        The manual describes the required format 
and                        gives an example. Someone's going to have to do      
                  some work.
                        
                        
                              
 
                                  I need little more detailed answer to         
                         solve the problem. 
                                  
                                  By the way, here is the full command          
                        line for which I got the error.
                                  
                                  $ pdb2gmx -f CYP.pdb -o CYP_CHARMM.pdb        
                          -p CYP1_CHARMM.top -i CYP_CHARMM.itp                  
                -ignh
                                
                            
                        
                        If you don't ignore hydrogens, and they're              
          already correct, you don't need to re-generate                        
them...
                        
                        Mark
                        
                        
                              
 
                                  The error is
                                  
                                WARNING:                                        
atom HA is missing in residue                                        HEM 513 in 
the pdb file
                                                 You might need to add          
                              atom HA to the hydrogen database                  
                      of building block HEME
                                                 in the file                    
                    aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)
                                        
                                        
                                        WARNING: atom HB is missing in          
                              residue HEM 513 in the pdb file
                                                 You might need to add          
                              atom HB to the hydrogen database                  
                      of building block HEME
                                                 in the file                    
                    aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)
                                        
                                        
                                        WARNING: atom HC is missing in          
                              residue HEM 513 in the pdb file
                                                 You might need to add          
                              atom HC to the hydrogen database                  
                      of building block HEME
                                                 in the file                    
                    aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)
                                        
                                        .
                                        .
                                        .
                                        .
                                        .
-------------------------------------------------------
                                        Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
                                        Source code file: pdb2top.c,            
                            line: 1449
                                        
                                        Fatal error:
                                        There were 30 missing atoms in          
                              molecule Protein, if you want to                  
                      use this incomplete topology                              
          anyhow, use the option -missing
                                        For more information and tips           
                             for troubleshooting, please                        
                check the GROMACS
                                        website at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
-------------------------------------------------------
                                        
                                        Thanks.
                                        
                                        Sundar Jubilant
                                      
                                 
                              
 
                              
                              
-----Original                                Message-----
                                From: Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
                                To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
<gmx-users@gromacs.org>
                                Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 2:17 pm
                                Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with        
                        CHARMM27 FF
                                
                                
                                  On 20/04/2012 2:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant        
                          wrote:                                  
Dear gmx-users,
                                          
                                          I am new to Gromacs and trying        
                                  to simulate a protein with a                  
                        heme group using CHARMM27 ff                            
              in Gromacs 4.5.3. I have                                          
received the following error                                          while 
running pdb2gmx .
                                        
                                  
                                  When asking for help, please give your        
                          full command lines and/or interactive                 
                 selections so that we can know more                            
      context.
                                  
                                  
 
                                          WARNING: atom HA is missing in        
                                  residue HEM 513 in the pdb                    
                      file
                                                   You might need to add        
                                  atom HA to the hydrogen                       
                   database of building block                                   
       HEME
                                                   in the file                  
                        aminoacids.hdb (see the                                 
         manual)
                                          
                                          
                                          WARNING: atom HB is missing in        
                                  residue HEM 513 in the pdb                    
                      file
                                                   You might need to add        
                                  atom HB to the hydrogen                       
                   database of building block                                   
       HEME
                                                   in the file                  
                        aminoacids.hdb (see the                                 
         manual)
                                          
                                          
                                          WARNING: atom HC is missing in        
                                  residue HEM 513 in the pdb                    
                      file
                                                   You might need to add        
                                  atom HC to the hydrogen                       
                   database of building block                                   
       HEME
                                                   in the file                  
                        aminoacids.hdb (see the                                 
         manual)
                                          
                                          .
                                          .
                                          .
                                          .
                                          .
-------------------------------------------------------
                                          Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
                                          Source code file: pdb2top.c,          
                                line: 1449
                                          
                                          Fatal error:
                                          There were 30 missing atoms in        
                                  molecule Protein, if you want                 
                         to use this incomplete                                 
         topology anyhow, use the                                          
option -missing
                                          For more information and tips         
                                 for troubleshooting, please                    
                      check the GROMACS
                                          website at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
-------------------------------------------------------
                                          
                                          Can anyone help how can I             
                             generate and add hydrogen                          
                database information for heme                                   
       to be used with CHARMM27 ff?
                                  
                                  
                                        You'll have to read the                 
                       applicable sections of manual                            
            chapter 5, make a local copy of                                     
   the charmm27.ff folder in your                                        
working directory and editing                                        
aminoacids.hdb to add the                                        generation 
information. When                                        you're done, please 
post your                                        efforts so that others might 
be                                        able to benefit from them in          
                              future. (Also, search first in                    
                    case this has already happened!)
                                        
                                        Mark
                                       
                                
                                  
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