Steven Neumann wrote:


On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Steven Neumann wrote:



        On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Steven Neumann wrote:

               Hi Gromacs Users,
                I have calculated hydrogen bonds and collisions between my
               ligands and every single residue using g_hbond. Looking
        at the
               criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible that number of
               hydrogen bonds were higher than number of collisions...
        And what
               is interesting in one of my residue I obtained result like
               this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All Collisions 704.
                Does anyone know how is it possible?
           I don't know how any of your numbers are possible (1872 H-bonds
           forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining as a collision
           and how you calculated it. Please provide the exact commands that
           you're using.  If you're equating a contact (e.g. from g_mindist)
           with a collision, then realize that the default criteria for a
           contact are very different than the geometric criteria for a
           hydrogen bond.

           -Justin

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         My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I used command:
         g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num 91with10LIGbonds.xvg
         Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10 ligands and
        Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second column) and
        collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of all frames
        during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps) obtaining
        1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10 ligands. I
        did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of
        different amino acids.
        Criteria for collision is distance <3.5 A, and fo hbond distance
        <3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and collisions the
        number of hbonds has has to be smaller while collision takes
        into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like this for
all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I right?

    No.  The second column is not inclusive of the first.  It counts the
    number of atoms that are within hydrogen bonding distance, but do
    not meet the criteria because of the angle between D-H-A.


    -Justin

    In this case number of collisions has to include number of hbonds.
    If collision is counted as a distance <3.5 and hbond distance <3.5
    plus angle D-H-A means that collisions covers hbonds... Explain
    please whether I am wrong.


The second column lists the number of atom pairs that satisfy the distance requirement but do not satisfy the angle requirement and therefore are not hydrogen bonds. The two columns are mutually exclusive. The sum of these two columns would be the total number of pairs that are within hydrogen-bonding distance, but the first column indicates those that are actually involved in hydrogen bonds (because of the angle), and the second column indicates those that are not involved in hydrogen bonds.

-Justin

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