Eudes Fileti wrote:
Hello Justin, I am facing a very similar problem to that you experienced and described in (http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-February/032429.html).

I throw this question in the GMX forum and Berk has kindly helped me. But reading the forum I realized that you already could be solved the problem so that maybe I could help more directly.


Please keep Gromacs-related discussions on the list. If you had followed the rest of the thread you reference, you will find that my calculations were falling victim to a bug in Gromacs-3.3.1. If you are using a newer version, then my situation is not applicable, since the problem has been fixed (IIRC) as of Gromacs-3.3.3.

If you are using version 3.3.1, re-run your simulations with a newer version.

I have tried to calculate the free energy of transfer from benzene to ethanol for a polyhydroxylated (24 OH's). This system has 24 hydroxyl groups, and in ethanol, there should be more than 20 solute-solvent hydrogen bonds being erased simultaneously (not to mention the possible intramolecular HB's).

The Dg/dlambda plot, for both, benzene and ethanol shows a very high and narrow peak near lambda=0. In the case of ethanol is worse due to the solute-solvent hydrogen bonds. I performed two sets of simulations, one for sc-power=1 and another for sc-power=2, using the following protocol:

1) I made disappear the electrostatic interactions turning off the charges (by 200ps), 2) At the sequence I made disappear the LJ interactions (for more 200ps) 3) Finally I performed a run of 0.5ns.
Correct me i this procedure is inappropriate.

To start, Berk said me that the use of sc-power=2 never is recommended. Ok!
Secondly, then he gave me a good tip that I was not taking into account:
Disappear the electrostatic interactions using hard-core instead soft-core.
I did this and actually work (only in part).

When I used softcore to desappear the electrostatic interations, the value of dg/dlambda for lambda = 0 was ~160000. Following the tip of Berk, wiht hardcore I got ~2000!

Right, you should only need soft-core for the LJ component.

However when I needed to use softcore again, now to remove the LJ interactions, the value returned back to ~160000.`


I don't understand what you mean. Is the total area under the curve 160000? That is ridiculously high.

I don't know that I have the expertise to help you much more. I am not entirely familiar with your methodology. What I have done in my own work is run 21 independent simulations at lambda points between 0 and 1 (5 ns each after equilibration), and integrated the resulting curve. None of my dV/dl points ever approached that magnitude, but I can't comment on your specific case, because I don't know what you're doing.

-Justin

Could you gimme some insigths to solve this problem?
Best
eef

P.S.: You can solve your problem of polyphenolic compound?

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Justin A. Lemkul
Graduate Research Assistant
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

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