alamb commented on code in PR #23703:
URL: https://github.com/apache/datafusion/pull/23703#discussion_r3634452151


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datafusion/session/src/catalog.rs:
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@@ -0,0 +1,246 @@
+// Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
+// or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
+// distributed with this work for additional information
+// regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
+// to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
+// "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
+// with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
+//
+//   http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+//
+// Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
+// software distributed under the License is distributed on an
+// "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
+// KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
+// specific language governing permissions and limitations
+// under the License.
+
+use std::any::Any;
+use std::fmt::Debug;
+use std::sync::Arc;
+
+pub use crate::schema::SchemaProvider;
+use datafusion_common::Result;
+use datafusion_common::not_impl_err;
+
+/// A catalog list that contains no catalogs.
+///
+/// [`Session`](crate::Session) implementations that do not provide catalog

Review Comment:
   this is something new I think



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datafusion/catalog/src/lib.rs:
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@@ -57,8 +57,3 @@ pub use memory::{
 };
 pub use schema::*;
 pub use table::*;
-
-// For backwards compatibility,

Review Comment:
   lol



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datafusion/catalog/src/catalog.rs:
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@@ -15,195 +15,4 @@
 // specific language governing permissions and limitations
 // under the License.
 
-use std::any::Any;
-use std::fmt::Debug;
-use std::sync::Arc;
-
-pub use crate::schema::SchemaProvider;
-use datafusion_common::Result;
-use datafusion_common::not_impl_err;
-
-/// Represents a catalog, comprising a number of named schemas.
-///
-/// # Catalog Overview
-///
-/// To plan and execute queries, DataFusion needs a "Catalog" that provides
-/// metadata such as which schemas and tables exist, their columns and data
-/// types, and how to access the data.
-///
-/// The Catalog API consists:
-/// * [`CatalogProviderList`]: a collection of `CatalogProvider`s
-/// * [`CatalogProvider`]: a collection of `SchemaProvider`s (sometimes called 
a "database" in other systems)
-/// * [`SchemaProvider`]:  a collection of `TableProvider`s (often called a 
"schema" in other systems)
-/// * [`TableProvider`]:  individual tables
-///
-/// # Implementing Catalogs
-///
-/// To implement a catalog, you implement at least one of the 
[`CatalogProviderList`],
-/// [`CatalogProvider`] and [`SchemaProvider`] traits and register them
-/// appropriately in the `SessionContext`.
-///
-/// DataFusion comes with a simple in-memory catalog implementation,
-/// `MemoryCatalogProvider`, that is used by default and has no persistence.
-/// DataFusion does not include more complex Catalog implementations because
-/// catalog management is a key design choice for most data systems, and thus
-/// it is unlikely that any general-purpose catalog implementation will work
-/// well across many use cases.
-///
-/// # Implementing "Remote" catalogs
-///
-/// See [`remote_catalog`] for an end to end example of how to implement a
-/// remote catalog.
-///
-/// Sometimes catalog information is stored remotely and requires a network 
call
-/// to retrieve. For example, the [Delta Lake] table format stores table
-/// metadata in files on S3 that must be first downloaded to discover what
-/// schemas and tables exist.
-///
-/// [Delta Lake]: https://delta.io/
-/// [`remote_catalog`]: 
https://github.com/apache/datafusion/blob/main/datafusion-examples/examples/data_io/remote_catalog.rs
-///
-/// The [`CatalogProvider`] can support this use case, but it takes some care.
-/// The planning APIs in DataFusion are not `async` and thus network IO can not
-/// be performed "lazily" / "on demand" during query planning. The rationale 
for
-/// this design is that using remote procedure calls for all catalog accesses
-/// required for query planning would likely result in multiple network calls
-/// per plan, resulting in very poor planning performance.
-///
-/// To implement [`CatalogProvider`] and [`SchemaProvider`] for remote 
catalogs,
-/// you need to provide an in memory snapshot of the required metadata. Most
-/// systems typically either already have this information cached locally or 
can
-/// batch access to the remote catalog to retrieve multiple schemas and tables
-/// in a single network call.
-///
-/// Note that [`SchemaProvider::table`] **is** an `async` function in order to
-/// simplify implementing simple [`SchemaProvider`]s. For many table formats it
-/// is easy to list all available tables but there is additional non trivial
-/// access required to read table details (e.g. statistics).
-///
-/// The pattern that DataFusion itself uses to plan SQL queries is to walk over
-/// the query to find all table references, performing required remote catalog
-/// lookups in parallel, storing the results in a cached snapshot, and then 
plans
-/// the query using that snapshot.
-///
-/// # Example Catalog Implementations
-///
-/// Here are some examples of how to implement custom catalogs:
-///
-/// * [`datafusion-cli`]: [`DynamicFileCatalogProvider`] catalog provider
-///   that treats files and directories on a filesystem as tables.
-///
-/// * The [`catalog.rs`]:  a simple directory based catalog.
-///
-/// * [delta-rs]:  [`UnityCatalogProvider`] implementation that can
-///   read from Delta Lake tables
-///
-/// [`datafusion-cli`]: https://datafusion.apache.org/user-guide/cli/index.html
-/// [`DynamicFileCatalogProvider`]: 
https://github.com/apache/datafusion/blob/31b9b48b08592b7d293f46e75707aad7dadd7cbc/datafusion-cli/src/catalog.rs#L75
-/// [`catalog.rs`]: 
https://github.com/apache/datafusion/blob/main/datafusion-examples/examples/data_io/catalog.rs
-/// [delta-rs]: https://github.com/delta-io/delta-rs
-/// [`UnityCatalogProvider`]: 
https://github.com/delta-io/delta-rs/blob/951436ecec476ce65b5ed3b58b50fb0846ca7b91/crates/deltalake-core/src/data_catalog/unity/datafusion.rs#L111-L123
-///
-/// [`TableProvider`]: crate::TableProvider
-pub trait CatalogProvider: Any + Debug + Sync + Send {
-    /// Retrieves the list of available schema names in this catalog.
-    fn schema_names(&self) -> Vec<String>;
-
-    /// Retrieves a specific schema from the catalog by name, provided it 
exists.
-    fn schema(&self, name: &str) -> Option<Arc<dyn SchemaProvider>>;
-
-    /// Adds a new schema to this catalog.
-    ///
-    /// If a schema of the same name existed before, it is replaced in
-    /// the catalog and returned.
-    ///
-    /// By default returns a "Not Implemented" error
-    fn register_schema(
-        &self,
-        name: &str,
-        schema: Arc<dyn SchemaProvider>,
-    ) -> Result<Option<Arc<dyn SchemaProvider>>> {
-        // use variables to avoid unused variable warnings
-        let _ = name;
-        let _ = schema;
-        not_impl_err!("Registering new schemas is not supported")
-    }
-
-    /// Removes a schema from this catalog. Implementations of this method 
should return
-    /// errors if the schema exists but cannot be dropped. For example, in 
DataFusion's
-    /// default in-memory catalog, `MemoryCatalogProvider`, a non-empty schema
-    /// will only be successfully dropped when `cascade` is true.
-    /// This is equivalent to how DROP SCHEMA works in PostgreSQL.
-    ///
-    /// Implementations of this method should return None if schema with `name`
-    /// does not exist.
-    ///
-    /// By default returns a "Not Implemented" error
-    fn deregister_schema(
-        &self,
-        _name: &str,
-        _cascade: bool,
-    ) -> Result<Option<Arc<dyn SchemaProvider>>> {
-        not_impl_err!("Deregistering new schemas is not supported")
-    }
-}
-
-impl dyn CatalogProvider {
-    /// Returns `true` if the catalog provider is of type `T`.
-    ///
-    /// Prefer this over `downcast_ref::<T>().is_some()`. Works correctly when
-    /// called on `Arc<dyn CatalogProvider>` via auto-deref.
-    pub fn is<T: CatalogProvider>(&self) -> bool {
-        (self as &dyn Any).is::<T>()
-    }
-
-    /// Attempts to downcast this catalog provider to a concrete type `T`,
-    /// returning `None` if the provider is not of that type.
-    ///
-    /// Works correctly when called on `Arc<dyn CatalogProvider>` via 
auto-deref,
-    /// unlike `(&arc as &dyn Any).downcast_ref::<T>()` which would attempt to
-    /// downcast the `Arc` itself.
-    pub fn downcast_ref<T: CatalogProvider>(&self) -> Option<&T> {
-        (self as &dyn Any).downcast_ref()
-    }
-}
-
-/// Represent a list of named [`CatalogProvider`]s.
-///
-/// Please see the documentation on [`CatalogProvider`] for details of
-/// implementing a custom catalog.
-pub trait CatalogProviderList: Any + Debug + Sync + Send {
-    /// Adds a new catalog to this catalog list
-    /// If a catalog of the same name existed before, it is replaced in the 
list and returned.
-    fn register_catalog(
-        &self,
-        name: String,
-        catalog: Arc<dyn CatalogProvider>,
-    ) -> Option<Arc<dyn CatalogProvider>>;
-
-    /// Retrieves the list of available catalog names
-    fn catalog_names(&self) -> Vec<String>;
-
-    /// Retrieves a specific catalog by name, provided it exists.
-    fn catalog(&self, name: &str) -> Option<Arc<dyn CatalogProvider>>;
-}
-
-impl dyn CatalogProviderList {
-    /// Returns `true` if the catalog provider list is of type `T`.
-    ///
-    /// Prefer this over `downcast_ref::<T>().is_some()`. Works correctly when
-    /// called on `Arc<dyn CatalogProviderList>` via auto-deref.
-    pub fn is<T: CatalogProviderList>(&self) -> bool {
-        (self as &dyn Any).is::<T>()
-    }
-
-    /// Attempts to downcast this catalog provider list to a concrete type `T`,
-    /// returning `None` if the provider list is not of that type.
-    ///
-    /// Works correctly when called on `Arc<dyn CatalogProviderList>` via
-    /// auto-deref, unlike `(&arc as &dyn Any).downcast_ref::<T>()` which would
-    /// attempt to downcast the `Arc` itself.
-    pub fn downcast_ref<T: CatalogProviderList>(&self) -> Option<&T> {
-        (self as &dyn Any).downcast_ref()
-    }
-}
+pub use datafusion_session::{CatalogProvider, CatalogProviderList};

Review Comment:
   maybe would be nice to metntion this is for backwards copatibility here in a 
comment



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datafusion/session/src/catalog.rs:
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@@ -0,0 +1,246 @@
+// Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one

Review Comment:
   So the idea is now that session is defining the APIs and the 
datafusion-catalog has the implementations?



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datafusion/session/src/catalog.rs:
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@@ -0,0 +1,246 @@
+// Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
+// or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
+// distributed with this work for additional information
+// regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
+// to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
+// "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
+// with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
+//
+//   http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+//
+// Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
+// software distributed under the License is distributed on an
+// "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
+// KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
+// specific language governing permissions and limitations
+// under the License.
+
+use std::any::Any;
+use std::fmt::Debug;
+use std::sync::Arc;
+
+pub use crate::schema::SchemaProvider;
+use datafusion_common::Result;
+use datafusion_common::not_impl_err;
+
+/// A catalog list that contains no catalogs.
+///
+/// [`Session`](crate::Session) implementations that do not provide catalog

Review Comment:
   Also a nit is that this is not accessable from datafusion::catalog — 
datafusion/catalog/src/catalog.rs:18 -- so users would have to add a dependency 
on datafusion_session
   
   I recommend adding a `pub use` in datafusion_catalot too 



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