I wrote:

> walt writes:

> > What I do when faced with an X problem is to type "X" at a console
> > prompt and see if the bare X server starts up normally, i.e. with the
> > black-and- white background pattern and the x-cursor.  That at least
> > will separate the kde bugs from the xorg bugs.
> 
> Yeah, that's what I did.

And that was the problem. I am pretty sure this just CANNOT be, but X runs 
fine if I start it via startx or KDM. I think even if the checkerboard X 
background I am used is no longer there, I should at least have seen the 
mouse, but, whatever.
Oh, when I start X with fglrx in xorg.conf then, I get a blank screen again, 
but the keyboard hangs, I have to to the Alt-SysRq-R trick to go back to a 
text console. But that is also blank, the 'textmode' does not help, and I 
have to reboot. But vesa or radeonhd seem to work, at least.


> I am not sure how the KDE upgrade went, all I can say yet is that using
> kontact on that machine right now via vnc works.

It did not work well. I cannot start any WM with KDM, after half a second 
KDM just restarts. I had this before already, but I thought it was related 
to the new ati drivers which I do not use now. XSESSION=kde-4.3 startx works 
though.

But my desktop/session is a mess. Windows have no title bar or border, the 
panel is cleared off most things, and such. I renamed ~/.kde4.2 to ~/.kde4 
before that. But then I cannot start kmail, because it wants to write into 
~/.kde4.2/share/appes/kmail/.

Should I start from scratch? Probably yes. I guess this problem comes from 
switching from +kreprefix to -kdeprefix.

        Wonko

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