walt writes:

> On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:
> > I wrote:

> >> And then... we will see. Come on, Gentoo, surprise me, and give me a
> >> running KDE 4.3 desktop with X and OpenGL and mouse and keyboard. That
> >> would be great.
> >
> > And what I got may possibly be all of that, but I cannot see it, as the
> > display is just blank...
> 
> What I do when faced with an X problem is to type "X" at a console prompt
> and see if the bare X server starts up normally, i.e. with the black-and-
> white background pattern and the x-cursor.  That at least will separate
> the kde bugs from the xorg bugs.

Yeah, that's what I did.

> I use startx, so doing this trick is easy for me.  If you use a display
> manager like xdm,kdm, etc then you'll need to disable that temporarily
> so you can boot to a console prompt.

I am also not using KDM the moment, because after my last attempt with ati-
drivers, KDE4 did not start from KDM. Using startkde worked fine, though. 
Although I think that even with the display manager running, X -- :1 should 
just start a second server.

I am not sure how the KDE upgrade went, all I can say yet is that using 
kontact on that machine right now via vnc works.

> BTW, did you generate a new xorg.conf after the upgrade?

Not really. There's not too much stuff customized there, so I just kept it, 
replacing only the Driver entry with radeonhd, vesa and such. I used to 
create fresh configs with X -configure, but this stopped working long ago, X 
always crashes when I do this:

(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 12 11:58:17 2009
List of video drivers:
        radeonhd
        radeon
        ati
        fglrx
        fbdev
        vesa
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:17:0) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:18:0) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:18:1) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:18:2) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:19:0) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:19:1) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:19:2) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:20:0) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:20:1) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:20:2) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:20:3) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:20:4) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@0:20:5) 
found
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0...@1:5:1) 
found

Backtrace:
0: X(xorg_backtrace+0x37) [0x8136a67]
1: X(xf86CallDriverProbe+0xe8) [0x80ada48]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting


I also tried without an xorg.conf, but then X does not start. Turns out I 
had fbdev in my VIDEO_CARDS a while ago, and did not depclean, so xf86-
video-fbdev was still installed. Removing it, X starts, but of course I also 
get the blank screen, and no apparent errors.
http://wonkology.org/~wonko/tmp/Xorg.log.2.6.28-tuxonice-r3


Okay, what next. This is driving me nuts, I never got great performance from 
my Radeon HD 3200, but at least I always got a display finally, not a blank 
screen. And I always had some X errors I could investigate in order to solve 
the problem, but now I do not really know what to do. File a bug? Plug in a 
PCI card and see what happens then? Try a third monitor?

        Wonko

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