On Saturday 04 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> On Friday 03 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>>> Its installer. I would prefer something like Sabayon's installer > >>>> (which is a Gentoo-based distro.) > >>> > >>> there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. > >> > >> He asked what annoys me, and I answered truthfully :P > > > > yeah, but if you think about it for a moment you will see that an > > installer is the WRONG THING and then you won't be annoyed anymore but > > glad. > > I thought about it and I would still like an installer. People asked me > "I want that too" after they see what Gentoo can do and is about. I > could help them learn to keep their Gentoo healthy and running, but I am > not willing to install it for them or teach them how to install it > themselves. Too much work. So from my observational point, the lack of > an installer just means that people who would like to try Gentoo just > don't, because the learning curve is too steep, beginning right at the > installation. To learn, you need a system that already runs so you can > learn that system. Gentoo needs to be installed by someone who already > knows. Chicken and egg. > > If it wasn't for the GUI installer of the 2007 live DVD (it's what I > used to install it), I wouldn't ever have installed Gentoo. I have a > life. And so does the majority of other people. I learned Gentoo (and > I think I learned it quite well) even while I used the GUI installer. > And I believe even that I learned Gentoo the right way. I am proof that > an installer doesn't only produce clueless Gentoo users.
maybe, but at the high time of the installer the forum was full with clueless (and it still is). Following the handbook is not hard.
