-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Webb [mailto:purs...@ca.inter.net] 
Sent: March 22, 2009 7:38 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

090322 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:58:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>>> Now I'm doing an emerge -u world.  
>> I never do that: I always do 'emerge -Dup world', then decide which 
>> packages to update & emerge them individually.
> I hope you use --oneshot every time
> or your world file will be a complete mess by now :(

Yes, there's always someone who says that (grin).
Of course, it's 2nd nature to check for 'W' or 'S' in my list & if the pkg
has neither, make sure to 'emerge -1 <pkgname>'.
Anyway, isn't 'world' going to vanish with the new '@' sets ?

>> I also have a list of all the pkgs I have installed with dates + 
>> deps, which I keep upto-date by hand as I emerge items.
>> I've never understood why 'emerge world' is considered standard:
>> repeatedly, there are appeals for help resulting from its shortcomings.
> One or two problems a week against the thousands of people running it 
> each day does not indicate a problem.  I'd say that avoiding blockers 
> etc by selectively skipping upgrades is more likely to lead to problems
later.

No, people run 'emerge world' in the background, miss the messages & then
run into nasty trouble for omitting RR or 'etc-update'.
That's the spirit of Ubuntu & the rest, not the hands-on Gentoo approach.

I run emerge world in the background and still run etc-update when I'm told
to. Crontab emails plus portage's --quiet flag are awesome. Speaking of
that, going to run that now.


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