On Sonntag, 13. Januar 2008, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: > Naga Toro wrote: > > On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: > >> I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a > >> ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read > >> the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who > >> needs the grief of listening to that crap from some a**hole who LEFT the > >> project. Give me a break. > > > > That would be two a**holes in that discussion. If you read it you would > > know that may devs tried to correct drobbins but that he couldn't accept > > the fact that he wasn't the chief anymore and that things have changed > > since he left. > > > > I'm not sure that the best guy to run Gentoo is a guy who wants to be THE > > chief and not one of the community. > > First D Robbins created Gentoo. Second what part of ex-dev don't you > understand. > If you are an ex-dev you shouldn't even be in the discussion period.
that is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this list. So users should never be part of discussions? Their needs? Their opinions? Also, drobbins continued his attacks even after explained SEVERAL times that the stuff ciaranm was doing was a) wanted and b) helpfull and c) supervised by devs. But he couldn't shut up OR accept that things changed since he left. Somebody who can not deal with changes, is somebody certainly unfit for leadership. Yes, he started gentoo (my first gentoo was 1.0). And compared to the chaotic times, gentoo is a heaven of stability today. Back under drobbins leadership it was ok, that the tree was broken or some update screwed your system. Happened all the time - nobody complained (too loudly). And some day he left. Things changed. Gentoo is much more stable today. There is no breakage of the week. No large scale surprising 'nothing works anymore'. A lot of things were done - without him. And he comes back and thinks that he can do better? Please - he already has shown that he can't. He has shown that he will leave projects after a short while (stampede, freebsd, enoch, gentoo, Microsoft). He has never shown that he can pull through with a project. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
