El 18/9/25 a las 5:13, Eli Schwartz escribió:
On 9/17/25 9:58 PM, Javier Martinez wrote:Let's play urbanterror online. Can you?, and openarena? And warzone2100?. Well something easier, pokerth. Or one chess game, what about xboard? You have almost told us all software that has support of wayland. How many software exists that does not know what wayland is? How many software has wayland use flag available? I see, xfce, dunst, firefox, gparted, spice, freerdp, vlc, parole, mpv and conky and some libraries and nothing more. Please, be realistic, wayland support is tiny.I'm quite happy with my existing Xorg setup and see no compelling urge to change. My DE doesn't even support wayland and my DE is a heck of a lot more important to me than the display tech. But I know how this works and I will push back against bad arguments used to defend even things I'm happy with. "Most" software uses Gtk or Qt for display purposes. You get a *lot* of mileage out of your toolkit seamlessly supporting X / wayland, so you don't need to. Packages which have a "wayland" USE flag are like packages which have an "X" USE flag: relatively uncommon. It indicates the package does something "special", when running on wayland, that requires specific custom code which the *GUI Toolkit* cannot automatically handle, and which *also* requires calling directly into wayland-client/wlroots/QWayland/gdk_wayland to code around it. But the garden path software does not CARE what it is running on so it has no USE. To be even more specific: USE=wayland does not mean, "supports running on wayland", it means "has to be recompiled before running on wayland". Using "number of packages without USE=wayland" to measure "packages that run via xorg emulation instead of natively on wayland", is very dumb. Sorry. It's like saying "many packages don't have USE=X, that must mean they don't support Xorg -- only wayland".
I don't use wayland.The wayland USE flag is needed to be able to talk with wayland, and the X use flag is needed to talk with X. Not all packages has X use flag but needs that their graphical libraries had support to since they need to talk with the Xserver. Can you run firefox on wayland without wayland use flag and WITHOUT using xwayland?
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