Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com > <mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > > there. The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily. There's 4 in > > the bottom, 11 in a tall stack for 3.5". Then there is others for SSD > > which I think can be changed to 3.5" drives. Plus, I might could add a > > couple cages in that massive case with a little rigging. Then again, > > there is this thing. > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/326063682173 > > > > Pardon me. I was drooling again. LOL In my new rig, I'm going to wait > > until I get the thing here and then figure out what to do. See what is > > the best option. > > > > Then again. This has cables that come with it and price is good. Your > > thoughts? > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? Keep in mind, one of my large LVMs > > is for torrent files. It just goes as fast as the controller will > > allow. It just takes longer to share with a slower card. > > > > I need a really good mobo to make a NAS type rig out of and put it in > > the Fractal case. PCIe slots is a must tho. Those just not happening. > > May have to find a used server mobo or something. > > > > Dale > > Hi Dale, > I have resisted getting involved in this long thread. Frankly, I'm not > really understanding the purpose of your 'new rig', and that's OK. It's > your new rig. > > I would like to point out a few things about current system > architectures that (I think) haven't come up in your thread, but > please disregard any and all of this if they have been addressed. > > 1) Probably the most important change that's happened over > the last few years with PCIe is that now much of it is completely > inside the CPU chip. When you investigate motherboard/CPU > combinations be aware that your PCIe slots are EITHER CPU > slots OR chipset slots. While all of them run at 8GHz, the ones > coming out of the CPU have lower latency because data doesn't > have to go through the chipset. > > 2) A PCIe 1x slot still has a lot of bandwidth - essentially 1GB/S. > (8GHz / 8bits/byte == 1GB/S) How much sustained disk > bandwidth do you need? A single 4x slot is a heck of a lot > of data if the machine can support it. > > 3) Watch your CPU choice carefully and match it (within budget > constraints) to the layout of the motherboard. If the motherboard > is laid out for a 24 channel PCIx CPU and you buy a 20 channel > CPU that's OK. However if it's laid out for a 24 channel CPU and > you upgrade to a 32 channel CPU later then you will only be > using 24 channels. > > 4) Keep in mind that in general a gaming motherboard is > designed to get data to the GPU as fast as possible so that > 16x PCIx slot will be using the bulk of the CPU channels. As > you seem to be heavily focused on huge numbers of drives > that may be an important consideration for you. > > Lastly, none of what I say above is guaranteed to be correct. > Continue to do your own research and ask questions. You'll > get there. > > Good luck with whatever choices you make. > > Over and out, > Marj
I wasn't completely understanding how that worked but I think Rich mentioned something about it when we were discussing the 7600 CPU. It just didn't sink in. I think the CPU I picked will be OK. Later I'll move up to the 7900 or 7950 CPU. That could max the mobo out or with a firmware update it may can go higher. Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or southbridge chip or both chips? My current Gigabyte mobo has both of those. The NAS box does too. In the picture of the ASUS mob, I don't see either but it could be under one of those metal heat sinks. That would explain a lot tho. To me, it seems as if mobo makers are focused on gaming and things revolving around USB. Neither of which is something I need. I need PCIe slots, not USB ports that are insanely fast for my use. Keep in mind, I plug my mouse and keyboard into a USB port and might use at most two USB ports for USB sticks or memory cards from trail cameras. USB 2.0 is more than enough for those and what I do with them. The trail camera cards are slow anyways. The last couple USB sticks I bought are 3.0 but my ports on front of the case are 2.0. It's still plenty fast enough for me. I wish a mobo would pop up with less USB ports but several PCIe x1 and a couple PCIe x8 slots. I'd be in heaven. :-D Thanks for the info. I was wondering where you were. _-O Dale :-) :-)
