On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give
> decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up
> there.  The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily.  There's 4 in
> the bottom, 11 in a tall stack for 3.5".  Then there is others for SSD
> which I think can be changed to 3.5" drives.  Plus, I might could add a
> couple cages in that massive case with a little rigging.  Then again,
> there is this thing.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/326063682173
>
> Pardon me.  I was drooling again.  LOL  In my new rig, I'm going to wait
> until I get the thing here and then figure out what to do.  See what is
> the best option.
>
> Then again.  This has cables that come with it and price is good.  Your
> thoughts?
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382
>
> How many SATA drives that allow?  It says 8 ports.  I think each port is
> 4 drives.  8 x 4 = 32.  Am I right?  Keep in mind, one of my large LVMs
> is for torrent files.  It just goes as fast as the controller will
> allow.  It just takes longer to share with a slower card.
>
> I need a really good mobo to make a NAS type rig out of and put it in
> the Fractal case.  PCIe slots is a must tho.  Those just not happening.
> May have to find a used server mobo or something.
>
> Dale

Hi Dale,
   I have resisted getting involved in this long thread. Frankly, I'm not
really understanding the purpose of your 'new rig', and that's OK. It's
your new rig.

   I would like to point out a few things about current system
architectures that (I think) haven't come up in your thread, but
please disregard any and all of this if they have been addressed.

1) Probably the most important change that's happened over
the last few years with PCIe is that now much of it is completely
inside the CPU chip. When you investigate motherboard/CPU
combinations be aware that your PCIe slots are EITHER CPU
slots OR chipset slots. While all of them run at 8GHz, the ones
coming out of the CPU have lower latency because data doesn't
have to go through the chipset.

2) A PCIe 1x slot still has a lot of bandwidth - essentially 1GB/S.
(8GHz / 8bits/byte == 1GB/S) How much sustained disk
bandwidth do you need? A single 4x slot is a heck of a lot
of data if the machine can support it.

3) Watch your CPU choice carefully and match it (within budget
constraints) to the layout of the motherboard. If the motherboard
is laid out for a 24 channel PCIx CPU and you buy a 20 channel
CPU that's OK. However if it's laid out for a 24 channel CPU and
you upgrade to a 32 channel CPU later then you will only be
using 24 channels.

4) Keep in mind that in general a gaming motherboard is
designed to get data to the GPU as fast as possible so that
16x PCIx slot will be using the bulk of the CPU channels. As
you seem to be heavily focused on huge numbers of drives
that may be an important consideration for you.

Lastly, none of what I say above is guaranteed to be correct.
Continue to do your own research and ask questions. You'll
get there.

Good luck with whatever choices you make.

Over and out,
Marj

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