On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:18:51 BST Michael wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:15:52 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:35 BST Michael wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:49:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > --->8
> > 
> > > > I decided to establish a firm, clean system to fall back to after
> > > > messing
> > > > about with the various wifi packages, so I built a fresh system
> > > > building
> > > > on the merged-usr stage-3. I was surprised to find that kde-plasma/
> > > > powerdevil now insists on installing Network Manager unless I set
> > > > USE=-
> > > > wireless against it.
> > > > 
> > > > Why has this happened? Can't the poor power devil cope with any other
> > > > way
> > > > of running WiFi?
> > > 
> > > The USE="wireless" flag on powerdevil is needed to save energy when the
> > > bluetooth/wireless chip is idle.  This function could be useful with
> > > laptops running on battery.
> > > 
> > > If you set USE="-networkmanager" in make.conf and USE="-wireless" for
> > > the
> > > powerdevil package you won't be bothered by this again.
> > 
> > I already had USE="-networkmanager" in make.conf.
> > 
> > This is not a laptop and it has no battery. Nowhere on the system is there
> > any hint to the contrary, so I still think this has not been thought
> > through. The logic should have included alternatives to Network Manager.
> 
> Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.  However, these decisions are taken upstream,
> where there is a tendency of convergence to monoculture.

Sorry, but I disagree with that last. The ebuild could have contained suitable 
logic, and it still could.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.




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