On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:15:52 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:35 BST Michael wrote:
> > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:49:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> --->8
> 
> > > I decided to establish a firm, clean system to fall back to after
> > > messing
> > > about with the various wifi packages, so I built a fresh system building
> > > on the merged-usr stage-3. I was surprised to find that kde-plasma/
> > > powerdevil now insists on installing Network Manager unless I set USE=-
> > > wireless against it.
> > > 
> > > Why has this happened? Can't the poor power devil cope with any other
> > > way
> > > of running WiFi?
> > 
> > The USE="wireless" flag on powerdevil is needed to save energy when the
> > bluetooth/wireless chip is idle.  This function could be useful with
> > laptops running on battery.
> > 
> > If you set USE="-networkmanager" in make.conf and USE="-wireless" for the
> > powerdevil package you won't be bothered by this again.
> 
> I already had USE="-networkmanager" in make.conf.
> 
> This is not a laptop and it has no battery. Nowhere on the system is there
> any hint to the contrary, so I still think this has not been thought
> through. The logic should have included alternatives to Network Manager.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.  However, these decisions are taken upstream, 
where there is a tendency of convergence to monoculture.

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