detail, the machine with centos is running 6.9, systemd was in V7+ i'll have to 
check that.  systemd was i believe in the later versions of V6.  I will check, 
it's been a hell of a year with many frustrations and my memory of V7 might be 
wrong, i'll be installing the latest centos later today so i'll check (i'll 
check before i install if possible).  I do remember this change, unless the 
stress had me severely confused, which might have happened, it was bad enough 
that i had a massive heart attack and didn't even know that was the problem, 
it's something of a miracle that i'm still here (badly blocked arteries, and 
apparently i tried to get off the table!).  Thankfully my heart has recovered 
completely, i'm a tough old bird.

mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist)
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11. Dec 2017 06:48 by mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com:


>     I've been using centos on one machine and checked.  When it was there it 
> showed up in the process manager.  just checked system monitor ,it's using 
> /sbin/init, manual for init on that machine says "upstart".  man entry also 
> says "init is event-based init daemon"..."this is different to dependency 
> based init daemons",  systemd is of course dependency based, unless i'm 
> terribly confused, in which case it's time for gentoo or debian on all my 
> boxes. (yes, i use desktops almost exclusively).  
>
> i like big screens (multiple), proper keyboards, and a mouse or trackball.)  
> I have a smart phone, too tiny screen, too tiny keyboard, and in this case 
> somewhat damaged code.  Besides, it's hard to put a 3TB drive in a phone, 
> currently.  Now when i get a brain jack one day and can run coprocessors etc. 
> maybe  (not one of the first!) .  Other than desktops i have a couple lap 
> tops, great when you need portable and exercise .
>
> mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist)
> --
>
>
> 11. Dec 2017 06:30 by > bradf...@fstab.me> :
>
>
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017, at 13:22, >> mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com>>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> interestingly, RH (and Centos) have both dumped systemd and gone to another 
>>> system (I don't remember which one).  In fact they've done so retroactively 
>>> on earlier versions.  Of course the continuing take over of linux by 
>>> commercial interest is distorting development goals (time spent trying to 
>>> destandardize/create new standards, make it harder to install and maintain, 
>>> and new tools they don't have to give away).  
>>>
>>
>> Have you got a source on that? I haven't read any news about RH switching to 
>> yet another init system.
>>
>> I think they're fairly well wedded to Systemd, for better or for worse.
>> --
>> Richard
>>
>>

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