On 170219-12:31+0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:17:34 +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
Hi, Neil, a fellow hexagenarian like me!

> > But the worse thing in both KDE and Gnome is the dbus, the opaque
> > program that is easily misused against the user. And figuring out about
> > it, and getting rid of it, that was also hard.
> 
> How can it be opague when it is open source.
And so is NSA Linux open source, and is opaque just the same...

Oh I meant SELinux, and pls. be the first to deny there were hooks
planted in Linux by Linus via the LSM (the Linux Security Module, for
the general audience), as per:

Developer Raps Linux Security
(or whatever the exact title, I'm offline, doing just a quick write)
http://www.crmbuyer.com/story/39565.html

> 
> > Are there options for KDE/Gnome without dbus (or d-bus) now?
> 
> KDE3 had its own IPC protocol, DCOP, that was used as the basis for DBus.
> Once there was a standard IPC system, there was no need for KDE to
> maintain its own. GNOME and KDE are integrated suites of software, some
> form of IPC is necessary for them to function. To ditch DBus, they would
> have to reinvent the wheel.
Yeah, right!

But I can't go into detailed discussions full time about dbus opaque or
not. (I really don't expect anybody can deny spender's claims in that
link on Linux security)...

Because I really need to finally solve my (likely) last installation
issue with gnunet:
svn-server setup (need it for gnunet in Air-Gap install)
https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user&m=148750543106051&w=2

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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