On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:35:39 +0000 hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Tanstaafl: > > On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common > >> thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no > >> emotional, financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you > >> have never met such a person or have never been in such an > >> environment. > > > > You are confusing 'intent' with 'result'. > > No. You are confusing yourself with the rest of the world. :-) > > Even self-destructive behavior is in the vast majority of cases > > engaged in with the *intention* of profit. Best example I can think > > of would be a drug addict/alcoholic. When they use/drink, they > > 'profit' in that the feel better (albeit temporarily), regardless > > of the ultimate result. > > > > I wasn't really talking about drug addicts. > > If you are interested in real self-destructive behaviour, talk to > someone who has worked in an asylum which is only one interesting > environment that can make you think very different about "people". > > There are even people who are not driven by anything, not even > self-destruction. Pure apathy. > > Another interesting thing... talk to a trial lawyer who has been in > that business for 10+ years. I really doubt that many of those will > support your "profit intention" concept. Most of the time it's about > short-cut reactions that are merely following instincts or emotional > impulses. Strong emotions can make someone lose control and do all > sorts of weird things without any hope or intention of > improving/gaining anything for living it out. > It's chemistry, it changes your consciousness. "Profit" is a bit more > complex and requires a minimum amount of reflection, even if it is > subconscious, short sighted and follows false assumptions. > > So these are just 3 points why your generalization does not work, like > most of those "all people..." phrases. Unless you hack on the > definition until it suits your interpretation, like redefining "profit > intention" to "intention". Thank you for the wonderful answer! > This reminds me of "the user" in computer science papers. Well, which > one. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJTB6qKAAoJEFpvPKfnPDWzD5MH/3qVBSactWRWng+x1bT29eP/ > Vsd3pSdP5GJ5JkH8Vj2LAhRJy9feRselI/TnZuXOOT+gTzAT+ip1fgqmIHTkaLEx > Z1a4L5WXEQxTq9aSoaBFzxstont0zb6LWHfW+c8H+V6UTXPUv6ZdGqP+PlLMLpYO > az0KiB09PMa/a3LOzPjhACQ6s1aRo5d4mUqOG91rxh3bOljt6WlMJ61ZEATQGwZt > iZJff4sO0qG9p6YeoZED0ep6QvH4UGkfl3yboiVf08uf9mbGSTnOffe5GSJqeBKo > 9uGK/tJJ4vkYqcEG60pZaqBuIguobzh84rwWg8DGs++Nv9dWbXi7Focpdse/OaU= > =8l+x > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
