On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafl<tansta...@libertytrek.org>  wrote:
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell<li...@sporkbox.us>  wrote:

For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
the default.

Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant...

This is about *choice*. Also, I would argue the *opposite of what Canek is
saying in this last rant...

Tanstaafl, can we please not use terms like "rants"? I'm just giving
my opinion, trying to be respectful and civil to the others
participants in this thread. I would appreciate if you do the same to
me.

Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and re-read your 'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why I referred to it as a 'rant'), while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point - that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of the work - was backwards, and that was what I wanted to point out.

So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very good job of patiently spelling out the advantages of systemd, to the point I'm no longer afraid of it taking over and devouring the linux world.

That said, in reality, there is (or should be) nothing inherently insulting about a claim that something you (or anyone) says was a 'rant'. Pretty much everyone I know who has strong opinions on things like this rants all the time. Sometimes those rants have more value/substance than others. A good rant will provide lots of substantive supporting documentation backing up the claims in the rant. A bad rant just makes a bunch of baseless claims and/or personal attacks.

Bottom line: since Gentoo's default and primary init system is (and hopefully will be for a very long time) OpenRC, it is on the systemd folks to do the work to get systemd fully supported.

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