On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jarry <mr.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06-Sep-13 18:14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jarry <mr.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 06-Sep-13 17:32, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2013 11:23 AM, Jarry wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It wasn't part of @system before, you just removed the thing that >>>>>> pulled >>>>>> it in. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No I did not. mail-mta/ssmtp was part of stage3. And I did not >>>>> remove now any "thing" that pulled it in. All I did was >>>>> "emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse world". >>>>> >>>>> As a result, python-exec, python-argparse and libxml2 were >>>>> reinstalled and automake-wrapper, gtk-doc-am, eselect and >>>>> linux-header updated. Nothing else. >>>>> >>>>> After that I did "emerge --depclean" and the above mentioned >>>>> packages were suddenly removed... >>>>> >>>> >>>> It could be that a package's deps were updated to no longer include >>>> virtual/mta. But it was never part of @system, you can check for >>>> yourself: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/base/packages?view=log >>> >>> >>> >>> Then something got broken because I have packages installed >>> that need mailer (i.e. app-admin/monit or sys-fs/mdadm are >>> configured to send emails). And these packages do not have >>> "mail" use-flag, because their maintainers apparently expect >>> standard *nix mailer (/usr/bin/sendmail) exists on the system... >>> >>> So now I have "stable" system, updated to the latest level, >>> where a lot of things suddenly do not work. This should *never* >>> happen! If it was some package's dep that caused it, it's clear >>> this change was premature... >> >> >> I think is a bug in the packages. In my system the only package that >> pulls vitual/mta (and therefore ssmtp) is vixie-cron. > > > That is strange. I have sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r12 and yet > revdep-rebuild does not want to pull virtual/mta. But It should, > as cron can be configured to send emails too.
Read my last mail; they changed the RDEPEND for the cron eclass. > As I wrote: there are *many* packages that expect standard > *nix mailer exists! If it does not, a lot of packages must > be fixed to include mailer as dependency. The devs disagree. I think I'm with them; the packages in question actually work, it just happens that they can't send mails anymore. If you need/want them to send mails, install an MTA. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
