Randy, I don't want to continue rehashing the whole thread, as you and I are essentially in agreement.
I do want to take this opportunity to highlight something we techies overlook almost all the time: We are human, and humans are not logical. We do not run on bash scripts and don't have a CPU in our heads. Sheldon and Spock are fiction :-) We humans run on emotion and the fuzzy-feel-good chemicals we squirt into our brains, and techies are probably the worst equipped to spot when it kicks in! And so: On 28/04/2013 18:02, Randy Barlow wrote: >> What we complain about here is basic low-level software changes that >> > affect much more than just their own little universe, and will do it ON >> > ALL LINUX MACHINES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. > Well, this will be the case if nobody forks these projects, or writes > competing projects. As Dale has pointed out, there already is eudev. For > systemd, you have OpenRC as an alternative. For Pulse, you can just use > a different DE. I understand that you don't like the direction that > these projects are going, and I'm not attempting to convince you to like > or use them. I'm just trying to point out that there are viable > alternatives. It's easier to whinge, moan, complain and insist that devs rollback the latest change than go through all the effort of running a fork. But it's not always about what the dev wants. A good dev will listen to what his users desire and incorporate that into his planning, this too seems to be hardwired to a degree in our brains. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com