On Thu, March 28, 2013 07:59, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 28/03/2013 04:56, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On 03/27/2013 05:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 27/03/2013 22:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> The case for systemd is twofold:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> 2) Reduce the amount of CPU and RAM consumed when you're talking about
>>>> booting tens of thousands of instances simultaneously across your
>>>> entire
>>>> infrastructure, or when your server instance might be spun up and down
>>>> six times over the course of a single day.
>>>
>>> I seems to me that this is rather a niche quite-specialized case
>>> (albeit
>>> a rather large instance of a niche case). In which case it would be
>>> better implemented as Redhat MagicSauce for their cloud environment
>>> where it would be exactly tuned to that case's need.
>>
>> But it's a great deal cheaper to convince volunteers and package
>> maintainers to put in the time to build the necessary service files of
>> their own accord. Add in the complexity of parallel boot, and you can
>> induce upstream to fix their own race-driven bugs rather than have to
>> pay for that development directly.
>>
>
> I don't follow the thought stream here Michael.
> It feels like there's a word or a sentence missing (it's just not
> hanging together)

Alan, I think what Michael is trying to say is that by getting other
distros to package systemd, other distros will help RedHat to find and fix
the problems systemd is causing.

--
Joost


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