On Monday 13 December 2010 10:58:54 Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 December 2010 20:34:22 Dale wrote:
> >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> On Sunday 12 December 2010 05:20:27 Dale wrote:
> >>>> That comes from lm-sensors.  Hmmm.  Since I have my stuff built
> >>>> into
> >>>> the
> >>>> kernel, can I still use that or would they clash somehow?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Also, this is a desktop not a laptop just in case it matters.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Dale
> >>>> 
> >>>> :-)  :-)
> >>> 
> >>> a) building the sensor stuff into the kernel is stupid
> >>> b) yes
> >> 
> >> Why is it stupid?  I been using Linux for years and have no modules
> >> except for nvidia and don't think I ever have either.  What difference
> >> does it make if it is a module or built in?
> >> 
> >> Dale
> >> 
> >> :-)  :-)
> > 
> > because sometimes the only thing to get a device back in working order
> > is to remove the driver and reload it. Easy with modules. Not with
> > built in drivers. Sometimes you have to try/use different options. Easy
> > with modules, but a reboot with built in drivers.
> > 
> > Rule of thumb: everything you need to boot built in, everything else
> > modules. Results in the least problems.
> 
> Well, having them built in has worked all these years.  If I have a
> driver problem, I get a new kernel.  Solves that problem.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

you don't use a lot of usb devices, do you? or dvb cards?

Because with both a 'hang' that can only and only be solved by either:
reloading driver
or
rebooting

have been very, very common.

'getting a new kernel' is not an answer if your mouse and keyboard just died, 
you have tons of windows open in X, need to save everything of it.. you want 
to reboot?
I want to hit the power button which executes a script reloading the usb 
drivers.

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