* On Friday 01 July 2005 01:49, Justin Hart wrote:
> Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision.  Go with
> nVidia, at least their drivers work.  I've thought of buying an nVidia
> card for this notebook for months because, frankly, ATI hasn't been
> taking care of the matter, and won't in the forseeable future.

There's two sides to every story. It is true that nVidia's drivers are ahead 
of ATI's counterpart, especially on desktop computers. They seem to be much 
more stable and mature, even while adding new features more quickly, i.e. 
support for Xorg's render and composite extensions.

The situation concerning notebook-specific features is a bit like playing 
roulette. Most people want to use suspend to disk or suspend to RAM on their 
quite expensive laptops, and it's both drivers who often fail miserably in 
that case, whether they are from nVidia or ATI. There are known workarounds 
which might or might not get the stuff working, the chance of failure is 
high, depending on numerous other things like the driver for your 
framebuffered console and so on... Guess what? The open source drivers 
usually work, but do not offer 3D acceleration in many (ATI) or all (nVidia) 
cases.

Which brings us to another important point: Contrary to nVidia's practice, ATI 
gives the specifications of older cards to the developer community. That's 
why there is an open source alternative for ATI's cards up to and includig 
the Radeon 9200 with working 3D acceleration support, and that's simply why 
there is no real open source alternative for nVidia cards if you want to use 
3D applications on your box.

Not that important? Well, while the ATI Mobility FireGL T2 in my IBM laptop is 
not yet supported by open source drivers, it certainly will be in the future. 
I wonder who's first in offering a 3D accelerated driver really supporting 
suspend to disk on my laptop: ATI or the guys from r300.sf.net. ;-)

Now vice versa: The Geforce2 GTS in my desktop is quite ancient, but was good 
enough to play around with Xorg's composite and render extensions to get some 
solid eyecandy. Guess what? nVidia decided to not support those cards 
anymore, they now just get the most important bugfixes via some (yet to come) 
"legacy drivers". Now that means a very little chance to have the new and 
still experimental stuff getting developed in my card's drivers in the 
future. Open source alternatives? None. See above.

"Buying an ATI card for a Linux box is not a good decision." is too general to 
be answered with "yes" or "no".

Regards,
Jens

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