On 09/03/2015 02:28 PM, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > * Anthony G. Basile schrieb am 02.09.15 um 18:13 Uhr: >> Hi everyone, >> >> So by now most people have heard the news that the Grsecurity/PaX team >> are no longer going to be making their stable patches available. The >> reason is that they are in dispute with a certain embedded systems >> vendor and those negotiations broke down. So they decided to make their >> stable patches only available to the sponsors. [1] >> >> What does this mean for Gentoo? Up until now I have been maintaining >> both the grsec upstream stable and testing patchsets in our >> hardened-sources. Currently the upstream stable kernels are 3.2.71 and >> 3.14.51 and the testing are 4.1.6. In about one week, the 3.2.71 and >> 3.14.51 patchsets will no longer be available and I'll continue pushing >> out the 4.1.6. Unfortunately the testing patchset is precisely as the >> name suggests --- for testing and not production. For the embedded >> systems company this will be the kiss of death because those patches are >> not suitable for long term. For Gentoo it will mean that I will have to >> be more vigilant about bugs and trying to stick with a well known kernel >> before moving on. You can still use these kernels in production, but >> you must be carefull about instabilities as upstream pushes out >> experimental feature that may oops or panic. Keep older kernel images >> around and revert if it doesn't work. Look to this list for >> announcements about more serious issues like things that can cause data >> loss. >> >> I'm hoping that once this company feels the sting of what has just >> happened, they'll come back to the table and talk with Grsec/PaX people. >> They won't be able to ship boards with grsec anymore because its not so >> easy to switch out a kernel on a board! If they ship a board with a >> bug, they loose. We just reboot :) >> >> [1] https://grsecurity.net/ > > Can't Gentoo be a sponsor? I think we could easly croudfund a > sponsorship. > > This would help Gentoo and Grsecurty/PaX but OTOH that vendor might just > use the gentoo kernel if they not already did so. > > Thoughts? > We can't do that because it would make the LTS patches public, which spender is trying to avoid.
-- -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
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