Hi Sam,
thanks for your feedback. I am glad for everyone who engages in this
discussion and shares their views and new information.
On 24/04/2023 22.28, Sam James wrote:
Florian Schmaus <f...@gentoo.org> writes:
[CCing williamh@ as go-module.eclass & dev-lang/go maintainer.]
I like to ask the Gentoo council to vote on whether EGO_SUM should be
reinstated ("un-deprecated") or not > In the various previous discussions, the
need
for _some_ limit to be implemented (derived from EGO_SUM) was clear from
the QA team and others.
Asking to impose an artificial limit is based on the same unfounded
belief under which EGO_SUM was deprecated in the first place. I am
worried that if we follow this, then a potential next step is to argue
about adding packages to ::gentoo.
Voting on the matter now would be reopening the issue which led EGO_SUM
to be deprecated in the first place, with only a partial mitigation
(the Portage warning).
I am sorry, but I do not follow. I think this is partly because it is
not clear "what" (else) to mitigate.
The discussion would be more productive if someone who is supporting the
EGO_SUM deprecation could rationally summarize the main arguments why we
deprecated EGO_SUM.
Any such limit should be supported by pkgcheck, allow using EGO_SUM
for most packages, but exclude the pathological cases which we're
unlikely to want in ::gentoo.
(Limit-per-ebuild rather than per-package is one option of many,
too.)
As you probably noticed, I am not aware why we should impose such a
limit. Especially a per-package limit confines the ability to provide
the user with multiple versions of a package, which sometimes comes in
handy [1].
Most voices on the related mailing-list threads expressed support for
reinstating EGO_SUM. At least, that is my impression. While the
arguments used to deprecate EGO_SUM were mostly of esthetic nature.
I want to state what should be common sense. Namely, asking for a
democratic vote is not a personal attack against any involved
person.
[...]
I agree this is an important issue that affects the practicality
of using Gentoo for some, and for contributing to Gentoo to others.
Same data point: Just in the last few days, multiple users reported in
#-guru issues they wouldn't have had if EGO_SUM was not deprecated.
- Flow
1: From my experience, this is also something Gentoo is praised for.
