On 10/02/2021 18:57, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote:
Hi all,

I'm announcing a new project here - "binhost"

"The Gentoo Binhost project aims to provide readily installable, precompiled
packages for a subset of configurations, via central binary package hosting.
Currently we are still in the conceptual planning stage. "

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Binhost

If you're interested in helping out, feel free to add yourself on the wiki
page.

Note that I see actually *building* the packages not as the central point of
the project (that could be e.g. a side effect of a tinderbox). I'm more
concerned about
* what configurations should we use

Others have already suggested starting with a minimal set of flags or starting with the profiles, and then adding flags at request. I would like to suggest the opposite approach, start with binpkgs of packages which have all or most of the flags enabled, and then add more specific/minimal configurations of that package later. Because from an user perspective it is less of a problem to install a binpkg which has more features than you need, than it is to install a binpkg which is lacking a certain feature you need. Therefore, I would start with configurations of packages that have most/all things enabled, and thus are usable for the largest amount of people. This would pull in more dependencies, but for binpkgs this is less of a problem since they don't add compile time.

* what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg
signing and verification)

I think a bugtracker for this might be a good idea at some point. In general, I think that portage's binpkg support is very good already, there are however some things that could be improved. Bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/687668 comes to mind (and some other things that were already mentioned by others).

The wiki guide on binpkgs[1] also mentions that:
"""
The support for multiple binary package servers is somewhat incomplete. If several servers serve a binary package for the same package version, then only the first one will be considered. This can be problematic when these binary packages differ in their USE variable configuration and the USE variable configuration of a later binary package would match the systems configuration.
"""
I don't know if this is still accurate, but if it is that would definitely be something that could use some improvement.

[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide

* how should hosting look like
* and how we can test this on a limited scale before it goes "into production"
* ...

Comments, ideas, flamebaits? :D

Cheers,
Andreas





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