William Hubbs wrote: > Hi Dale, > > I would like to call your attention to a couple of things in my message. > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:40:10PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: > *snip* > >>> I want to hear from people who have / and /usr on separate partitions >>> and who are not using an initramfs. >>> >>> If you are in this group, I have a very specific question. Why aren't >>> you using an initramfs? > *snip* > >> I have a separate /usr among others and always have. The reason I do >> that, /boot and / are normal partitions but everything else is LVM. I >> can adjust the size of everything BUT /boot and /. At the time I did >> that, the init thingy was not needed if I recall correctly. I might >> add, I've had to grow /usr and /var a couple times. Before LVM, it >> meant copying over to another drive, repartitioning and then restoring >> to the old drive. Time consuming and one wrong command could ruin a >> install. >> >> While I have a init thingy, I do not like it. I've had a couple >> failures already with those things. Luckily I keep older kernels and >> such for that. If I had my wish, I would not need a init thingy, ever. >> It's just one more thing that can cause problems. There's already more >> than enough things that can break. While I understand the problem comes >> from upstream, I still think it sucks. It's easy enough to have a >> unbootable kernel as it is. Adding another layer for booting to fail >> should be avoided. BTW, I use dracut. I tried to build it other ways >> but couldn't get it to work. Bad thing is, when one fails even built >> with dracut, I have no clue how it works really so no idea how to fix >> other than using a older kernel or just rerunning dracut and hoping for >> the best. > > You just stated that you have an initramfs, so you did not thoroughly > read my message. I specifically asked to hear from folks who aren't > using one. All of this is irrelivent since you are. > >> I'm also not looking forward to the other situation you mentioned >> either. At some point, having separate partitions won't be easy with or >> without a init thingy. I can't easily resize / without reworking the >> whole thing. > > Like I said above, separate partitions without an initramfs has been > broken for many years. We have been doing some downstream hacking that > made it work for some people. You are obviously not one of those people > since you use an initramfs. > > Can you please not add irrelivent noise to this thread? > > William
I did read your message. The reason I posted, I wish I did NOT have to have one and I was in the situation you describe. From what people post, here and elsewhere, my system may not boot without one. So, if it is possible to NOT have a init thingy, I'd love to see that supported. I might also add, I originally thought this was on -user not -dev. I did see that wrong. Dale :-) :-)